[Kham]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

Like I said, Kham.... people need to take some responsibility for your own actions. It sounds to me the only thing your parents failed at was teaching you accountability..... How's that for an oxymoron?

Always blame others
It can never be Kham's fault
Damn them all to hell

listen carefully Pete, do you blame yourself when you were still crawling, don't know how to use bathroom and poop in your pants? got the idea? aren't you still a kid? you think you're all grown up now aren't ya.

[Kham]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

no you're not with the stupid. you're flip flopping.

[OreoGitorio]

So you're upset at your parents cuz you pooped yourself?

I'm not flip-flopping, it's called "totally different circumstances." What did that girl do wrong? she got onto the back of a bike... millions of girls do it every day, are they supposed to ask for a friggin Motorcyclist Resume? No.

You getting yourself into trouble is TOTALLY different than getting killed cuz some kid didn't know how to ride & was being a d-bag.

[BigShel]

I would have to say they are both at fault.I have a 15yr old and I bring her the I will kick your ass way and let me tell you its working so far.She has called to come get her from many parties where underage drinking is going down, Because she know if the police pick her up she is dead and as for getting in cars with her drunk friends that shit will better not happen but I can watch her all the time so all I can do is try my best.Too bad that girl did not have a Dad like me.

[Kham]

Originally Posted by UPANDCOMING

I would have to say they are both at fault.I have a 15yr old and I bring her the I will kick your ass way and let me tell you its working so far.She has called to come get her from many parties where underage drinking is going down, Because she know if the police pick her up she is dead and as for getting in cars with her drunk friends that shit will better not happen but I can watch her all the time so all I can do is try my best.Too bad that girl did not have a Dad like me.

thank you. here you go Pete. example of good parenting.

[OreoGitorio]

Originally Posted by Kham

thank you. here you go Pete. example of good parenting.

.... or maybe she's just a good kid.... ever think of that?

I've known good & bad kids w/ very strict parents, i've known good & bad kids w/ very relaxed parents.... It's a total combination of Nature & Nurture, who you are AND how you're raised.

Just cuz you always get in trouble doesn't mean you can blame your friggin parents. That's all I'm sayin.

[Kham]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

.... or maybe she's just a good kid.... ever think of that?

I've known good & bad kids w/ very strict parents, i've known good & bad kids w/ very relaxed parents.... It's a total combination of Nature & Nurture, who you are AND how you're raised.

Just cuz you always get in trouble doesn't mean you can blame your friggin parents. That's all I'm sayin.

she does not look like a good kid.

i was not ALWAYS in trouble and all im saying is in this case the parent is ALSO to blame.

[katana0215]

pete, why do you bother?

[Kham]

you're not the only one with that feeling. trust me.