[nilez]

New Sport Bike Training Unveiled


If the Dept. of Navy wants to pay for me to take it, then by all means. I took the MSF when I first got into motorcycling several years ago, and have plans to finally get up to a trackday this summer before my orders to report to active duty come through in the fall, and have hopes of taking the ERC at some point in the near future. Do I really need to take another course that the Dept. of Navy has determined a requirement??? I don't know, but in my opinion it's not a bad idea, but like I said, I'm already going to be paying enough for the trackdays and ERC, I'd rather not have to pay for something that the Navy has set as its own requirement. Oh well, sort-of-rant done. What's your take? Devil1, this would apply to you as well, not sure if anyone else on the board is still Navy or MC besides us two...

[Doc]

I would hope that the course would be paid for if they are requiring it. (pretty sure it has to be paid for)

I bet you can take this instead of the BRC.

One of the comments brought out a good point. Most new riders don't listen. I know I didn't listen to most. Did you?

The people I did listen to... The Kent K and Peter E from the magazines and anyone that sounded like them.

[nilez]

I think we're all a bit self-centered and arrogant when we're young and new to the sport, especially when you get on a motorcycle and start getting overconfident with your abilities. I'd like to think I'm well past that threshold now, I welcome any and all advice about motorcycling that anyone with more experience than I is willing to give. If I didn't, why would I be interested in a trackday or ERC?

I'm wondering when this course must be completed by. Like I said, I haven't received my orders to report for active duty yet, but I may receive a temporary active duty assignment out of my Officer Selection Office in Durham, NH for a couple months. Would I have to have taken this course by then? (rhetorical question, unless you know the answer).

[Doc]

Originally Posted by nilez

I think we're all a bit self-centered and arrogant when we're young and new to the sport, especially when you get on a motorcycle and start getting overconfident with your abilities. I'd like to think I'm well past that threshold now, I welcome any and all advice about motorcycling that anyone with more experience than I is willing to give. If I didn't, why would I be interested in a trackday or ERC?.

I was not meaning you.

You did already take the BRC right?

[nilez]

Originally Posted by Doc

I was not meaning you.

You did already take the BRC right?

BRC being the Basic Rider Course correct? yes, took it before I bought my first bike, obtained my license endorsement through it, and got my 10% discount on insurance Wouldn't mind even taking it again... although I've heard the ERC is the same course, except you have to supply your own bike?

and no, I wasn't taking your comment about not listening as a new rider personally, I understand what you mean.

[Cheese-GSXR]

Nilez,

If you're interested in taking the ERC you have an interest in improving your riding so this will be just one more course the Navy is offering you. As Doc said, it will be free.

Hopefully you kept your BRC card as you will probably need it for riding onto any Military Installation. There are a few other garments you may be required to wear too but they seem to vary from Base to Base.

[Kham]

Originally Posted by nilez

I think we're all a bit self-centered and arrogant when we're young and new to the sport, especially when you get on a motorcycle and start getting overconfident with your abilities. I'd like to think I'm well past that threshold now, I welcome any and all advice about motorcycling that anyone with more experience than I is willing to give. If I didn't, why would I be interested in a trackday or ERC?

I'm wondering when this course must be completed by. Like I said, I haven't received my orders to report for active duty yet, but I may receive a temporary active duty assignment out of my Officer Selection Office in Durham, NH for a couple months. Would I have to have taken this course by then? (rhetorical question, unless you know the answer).

damn! he sound like a 40 yr old and only 21.

[naked-daytrader]

When I was stationed in Hawaii, you were required to take a safety course to ride on base. Don't know how it is now. This was on top of the MSF course required for you license in Hawaii...

[nilez]

Originally Posted by Cheese-GSXR

Nilez,

If you're interested in taking the ERC you have an interest in improving your riding so this will be just one more course the Navy is offering you. As Doc said, it will be free.

Hopefully you kept your BRC card as you will probably need it for riding onto any Military Installation. There are a few other garments you may be required to wear too but they seem to vary from Base to Base.

That's sort of the direction I was heading with this thread. I don't mind taking another riding course, it can only help me, and this one is even geared towards sport bikes, which should be interesting to note the differences between the ERC and this course. I was just kind of ticked off thinking that I'd have to pay for it, I guess it's mostly an insignificant gripe, but I thought the article was worthy of posting anyway.

[loridin64]

you have to take whatever the base course is they offer. you can have your license for 100 yrs, it doesnt matter. They require it for you to be able to ride on base. Plus they go over all the jargon that you have to wear, whats in regs, and everything else they require. When i took it back in '01, i dont think it was free, and it was 3 days. Thursday and Friday were halfday classrooms and Saturday was all day riding/skills testing.
if you are in the USAF, they require you to take the course at every station you go to...WTF?

[Cheese-GSXR]

Keep in mind, there are usually very few instructors on Base and courses fill up very quickly in the spring. If they're still offering them in the fall when you get assigned, that may be the easiest time to get in.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by Kham

damn! he sound like a 40 yr old and only 21.

Being an Officer will do that to you. Makes you grow up real quick.

[nilez]

Originally Posted by Doc

Being an Officer will do that to you. Makes you grow up real quick.

yea yea yea, so does being enlisted mean you get to stay a kid?

[Kham]

Originally Posted by Doc

Being an Officer will do that to you. Makes you grow up real quick.

dont grow up too fast. make sure to enjoy life a little.

[Evil_Weasel]

Originally Posted by nilez

yea yea yea, so does being enlisted mean you get to stay a kid?

yes it does, the only differance between a master sgt on shore leave and a pfc is the price of the drinks.

i had taken my BRC at 16 in order to get my license. by the time i got to my permanat duty station at 20 i had lost the card. to be able to ride on base i needed a new card. i took the (free) ERC course offered by base saftey. i did have to meet with the guy and convince him i was an experianced rider. than i had to have my bike saftey inspected by the same guy before i could take the course. i got a finger wagging for integrated rear signals and no rear fender. oh well, i passed inspection and the course with flying colors.

[type911]

A Safety course is required by the Coast Guard As well. I lost my Documentation back in 1992. I have to pay again If I want to get on base with it. Sooooo pissed.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by nilez

yea yea yea, so does being enlisted mean you get to stay a kid?

Well being Senior Enlisted means you have to Raise all the young LT's into old men...

[Devil1]

Originally Posted by nilez

New Sport Bike Training Unveiled


If the Dept. of Navy wants to pay for me to take it, then by all means. I took the MSF when I first got into motorcycling several years ago, and have plans to finally get up to a trackday this summer before my orders to report to active duty come through in the fall, and have hopes of taking the ERC at some point in the near future. Do I really need to take another course that the Dept. of Navy has determined a requirement??? I don't know, but in my opinion it's not a bad idea, but like I said, I'm already going to be paying enough for the trackdays and ERC, I'd rather not have to pay for something that the Navy has set as its own requirement. Oh well, sort-of-rant done. What's your take? Devil1, this would apply to you as well, not sure if anyone else on the board is still Navy or MC besides us two...

Sorry just found this, I was at Deals Gap this week.

Sounds good to me. Hell if they send you and it's free why not? I know that now as per new standards I have to retake the MSF and take a new "Sportbike" specific course.

[nilez]

resurrecting a dead thread I know...


Does anyone know where I can find more information about this course? Myself and another Lt., who works with me, both ride and are both on this board (obv.) I also have several officer candidates that ride/have expressed interest in riding, and I am taking the responsibility of learning as much about this as I can so that I can assist my fellow Lt. as well as the our candidates. My Capt. is cool with us riding to the office to save on gas (rather than driving our trucks over an hour each way to get to and from), however we all agreed here at the office that it would be best to take this course before riding and parking the bikes right outside the office.

I am currently trying to track down more info on this myself, but I figured I'd use all my resources I have at my disposal... and even though this forum is chalk-full with retards, including myself, some good info does occasionally leak onto the boards.

If I find anything on my own, I'll make sure to post it in case anyone else is curious about it.


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[Degsy]

This class was only formally announced at the Pentagon last month I believe. It is going to be a requirement for all sportbike riding servicemen in the future. I'm trying to become one of the first to qualify to teach the class in this area. I'm looking for info now. More to come when I get it. Hopefully today.

[nilez]

Originally Posted by Degsy

This class was only formally announced at the Pentagon last month I believe. It is going to be a requirement for all sportbike riding servicemen in the future. I'm trying to become one of the first to qualify to teach the class in this area. I'm looking for info now. More to come when I get it. Hopefully today.

Awesome Degsy, thanks a lot!

I did come across some info after digging through a bunch of Marine Corps admin websites; nothing that really helps me out though.

http://www.safetycenter.navy.mil/ASH...C_Cert_Crs.pdf

Gives a decent overview of the mission of the new MSRC, however I haven't had any luck trying to find dates AND locations for the course. The only calendar I found was for July 2008... we're almost in September, hmmm...

damned USMC...


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[loridin64]

you're not going to find the MC course around here. there just isnt any demand for it. Even on the larger USMC bases/air stations they are only offered a couple times a year. I would see what the CO of the regions RS has to say about it. I believe, but its been a while, you only need the course to ride on base, and technically you're not riding on any base right now, so you're all set. But i could be totally pulling that last part out of my ass

[Doc]

Ours are chock full with waiting lists...

I'd like to teach that sportbike class as well.

Check with your Base safety office or the MSF local to you.

Also the Army has a website... https://crc.army.mil/mmp/

Maybe the Marine's Have something similar (I think the Air force does)

[nilez]

Thanks for the input. I'm going to talk with my CO and see what he has to say about it. I have taken the BRC, and like you said loridin, it's not offered in many places in this area.