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Old 07-17-08, 10:49 PM
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Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.




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Hint: Don't post videos of rule infractions on YouTube... TTD instructors have internet access... WE SEE ALL!!!

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Old 07-17-08, 10:58 PM
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


I know who it is. It's no one here, I've contacted them with a link to this thread though, so they can see for themselves that they can't break the rules and expect not to get caught.
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Old 07-17-08, 11:05 PM
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


*Noob Question*

Maybe it's because I've never been to a track or ever watched a race, but what was wrong in that vid?
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


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I know who it is. It's no one here, I've contacted them with a link to this thread though, so they can see for themselves that they can't break the rules and expect not to get caught.




Tom, right at the 13-14 second mark you see the orange 600rr (?) pass the blue SV650 up the inside of turn 7. We don't allow inside passing at TTD's.
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


NO PASSING ON THE INSIDE!! (or something)
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


I thought you were saying it was my passes at first because I passed on the left, but then I watched it again and noticed the last pass of the video.
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Tom, right at the 13-14 second mark you see the orange 600rr (?) pass the blue SV650 up the inside of turn 7. We don't allow inside passing at TTD's.
Ya I saw it. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Is that a rule at all tracks or just this particular one?
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Old 07-17-08, 11:15 PM
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


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I thought you were saying it was my passes at first because I passed on the left, but then I watched it again and noticed the last pass of the video.
Yeah, that was a little borderline but it was before tip-in. Generally we like to see passing on the right in the braking zone though (see the other thread I started about outside passing).

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Ya I saw it. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Is that a rule at all tracks or just this particular one?
It's a rule at many track days, but not all... however we find it's in everyone's best interest to prohibit inside passing. That way, if you crash while making a pass the only person you take out is yourself.

If you wanna pass someone up the inside then by all means feel free to get your race license & play w/ the big boys
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


yeah, I understand it all, and great job describing exactly where the boundries for passing are definite and tentative. I felt that specific pass was safe but I'll be sure to hold off until the next passing zone next time then just squeezing it in before tip in.

Looks like he didn't even think about passing until after I passed him, seems like someone has a bit of an ego.

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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


Wasn't that the red group? There should have been no passing there at all.
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


There is NO passing from the apex of T6 to T9 in Blue and yellow groups. That pass is right out a blatant violation. There is a chance this was not seen at the T8 corner worker. They have to be able to scan T4, T5, T6, T7, T8, and T9 in an 180deg viewing platform. This could have occurred while watching someone in T4, T5, or T9.

I think this person will get the shake down. It looks like you can run but you can't hide....
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


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I know who it is. It's no one here, I've contacted them with a link to this thread though, so they can see for themselves that they can't break the rules and expect not to get caught.
Oh... Oh... Oh... I know who it is too...
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Wasn't that the red group? There should have been no passing there at all.
Yip... double whammy.

What woulda happened if the guy on the SV corrected his line & tightened up at the turn 7 apex? Baaaad things, that's what.
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Yip... double whammy.

What woulda happened if the guy on the SV corrected his line & tightened up at the turn 7 apex? Baaaad things, that's what.
That's exactly what I was thinking. I try to get as close to the turn 7 cones as possible.
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


I just realized either I posted this in the NESR track days section or it got moved.... could we get this in the TTD section if it belongs there?
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Wasn't that the red group? There should have been no passing there at all.
No... it was blue...
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


Sure about that? I see Mike (imkindafkedup) in there, he's not in blue yet... in fact he just bumped to yellow this past 2-day.

The vid wasn't from this week, It was posted back in June.
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


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Sure about that? I see Mike (imkindafkedup) in there, he's not in blue yet... in fact he just bumped to yellow this past 2-day.

The vid wasn't from this week, It was posted back in June.
Well, if the offender is who I think it is... there's no way he would have been allowed to ride in yellow. He's been riding in blue for the last few years.
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


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That's exactly what I was thinking. I try to get as close to the turn 7 cones as possible.
me too...i try to hit them with my head. they moved them this year, they are further in the grass now
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


definitely either red or yellow, and judging by the blue SV I believe it is red group day 1.
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me too...i try to hit them with my head. they moved them this year, they are further in the grass now
i can't remember who it was, but someone at the races comes outta six and it looks like he's skimming his elbow in the grass every lap. that was awesome.
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Old 07-19-08, 07:23 AM
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Re: Well lookie what I found... Illegal passing right behind KenC's back.


The second rider passing into the bowl is questionable as it was getting pretty far down there... but there was plenty of room and it was done smoothly so no sweat there.

The second pass, as mentioned above, is wrong for 2 reasons... it's all a NO PASSING AREA and it was inside.

For anyone wondering why it's a no passing area, look around at that area on your next follow the leader laps.

It's got 3 strikes... It's HIGH SPEED, with 3 direction changes (left right left), and minimal run off.
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