[snaggle]

Is there a site that lists what dealers actually pay for a car. Looking at family cars this weekend, and I want to have all of the info I can get. Thanks

[R-S-V]

edmunds.com should have invoice pricing.

[slaps76]

And other than invoice, look up the "dealer holdback." This is money given to the dealer from the manufacturer per car that also adds to the profit. It was originally implemented to cover overhead costs at the dealership.

Depending on the car, dealership, ect., this may or may not be something else you can factor your negotiations on.

[cyberxen]

The new car pricing guide from consumer reports has everything you need, including dealer holdbacks.

http://www.consumerreports.org

I have used it twice and it was worth every penny.

[Jank]

Just buy a fucking Touareg already!
Annette wants one and you can use one!
It don't matter what it costs, as long as it's what she wants!