[Kham]

let's start a new thread on speed limit.

i'd like to know this.

if you get pulled over for doing 15 over in a 30zone, do you think you'll get pulled over for doing 15 under by the same cop? that would be going 15mph. people would start honking and passing on double yellow.

anyone have expience?

[benVFR]

No cause there's no minimum speed limit in any 30mph zone I've ever seen. You've got farm equipment and stuff that can't do 30mph all the time in those kinds of low-speed zones.

And frankly you are not likely to find me doing 15 over in a 30. I may have done that when I first started riding but these days I'm too paranoid. Generally if the speed limit is 30mph, it's crowded, with too many chances for cars/pedestrians/cyclists/whatever to pull out in front of me. City speed limits make sense to me.

Yah if it's 30mph in the middle of nowhere and they made the road 30mph cause it's twisty you might see me doing 15 over, but not in the city which is the #1 area you see low speed limits.

[Stoneman]

My grandfather actually DID get pulled over for going too slow. He was doing 35 in a 50 on a two-lane NH state highway. He didn't get a ticket, but he wasn't allowed to drive his own car home. We hadta drive out there to get him and drive his car home...

[Phate]

My buddy got pulled over for going about 12 mph under the limit one time. However, the circumstances were a little different than usual. It was about 2:30am and he was just cruisin nice and slow in the right lane just because he had no reason to rush and was just driving home with his girl. The cop who pulled him over didnt give him a ticket and explained how most D.U.I.'s are from people driving way too slow so as not to be noticed. Understandable pull over i.m.o. and nice enough to offer an explanation

[Stoneman]

Originally posted by Phate
... Understandable pull over i.m.o. and nice enough to offer an explanation

No! It's NEVER understandable, nor okay to pull someone over. It's just plain W-R-O-N-G!

...ask Kham...

[Kham]

Originally posted by Stoneman
My grandfather actually DID get pulled over for going too slow. He was doing 35 in a 50 on a two-lane NH state highway. He didn't get a ticket, but he wasn't allowed to drive his own car home. We hadta drive out there to get him and drive his car home...

was he drunk?

[Kham]

Originally posted by Stoneman
No! It's NEVER understandable, nor okay to pull someone over. It's just plain W-R-O-N-G!

...ask Kham...

was he swerving at all or have any busted light? it's understandable but if not the cop is just bored and made up excuse cause he wanna see the cute girl friend maybe?

edit: that would be like pulling someone over for doing the speed limit because he drives a nice car so he might be a drug dealer.

[MissTwisties]

Originally posted by benVFR
And frankly you are not likely to find me doing 15 over in a 30. I may have done that when I first started riding but these days I'm too paranoid. Generally if the speed limit is 30mph, it's crowded, with too many chances for cars/pedestrians/cyclists/whatever to pull out in front of me. City speed limits make sense to me.

Yah if it's 30mph in the middle of nowhere and they made the road 30mph cause it's twisty you might see me doing 15 over, but not in the city which is the #1 area you see low speed limits.

Said puurfectly.

[VinceF2]

Originally posted by Kham
was he swerving at all or have any busted light? it's understandable but if not the cop is just bored and made up excuse cause he wanna see the cute girl friend maybe?

edit: that would be like pulling someone over for doing the speed limit because he drives a nice car so he might be a drug dealer.

Driving unusually slow for the area or fluctuating your speed are two indicators TAUGHT to cops when attempting to identify an OUI. There are precentages associated to each indicator.

[Kham]

Originally posted by VinceF2
Driving unusually slow for the area or fluctuating your speed are two indicators TAUGHT to cops when attempting to identify an OUI. There are precentages associated to each indicator.

what is consider unusually slow? and why? you're still moving even at 5mph. you're not stopping.

at stop sign, some would argue stop means stop and you would get a ticket for rolling thru at unusually slow.

[McBiggity]

some would argue that a Stop sign means stop???

umm- that's what a Stop sign means.
Come to a Stop, proceed when safe to do so.

[bigred875]

Originally posted by Kham
what is consider unusually slow? and why? you're still moving even at 5mph. you're not stopping.

at stop sign, some would argue stop means stop and you would get a ticket for rolling thru at unusually slow.

i'm guessing 10-15 under the speed limit as most people USUALLY go ateast the speed limit....and stop means stop...people get tickets for "rolling" through stops signs all the time...

[Kham]

Originally posted by mcbgti
some would argue that a Stop sign means stop???

umm- that's what a Stop sign means.
Come to a Stop, proceed when safe to do so.

exactly! my point is under current speed limit law is there such thing as unsually slow? i mean you're still moving even at 5mph. so as long as you're not stopping, you are not violating any "no stopping" zone.

[Kham]

Originally posted by bigred875
i'm guessing 10-15 under the speed limit as most people USUALLY go ateast the speed limit....and stop means stop...people get tickets for "rolling" through stops signs all the time...

i understand that. as longa s speed is posted, the norm is people would shoot for that limit and above because they want to get somewhere quick. is it stated somewhere in the book?

[Kham]

so from what i gather under the speed limit, you're either moving or your're stopping.

[bigred875]

Originally posted by Kham
i understand that. as longa s speed is posted, the norm is people would shoot for that limit and above because they want to get somewhere quick. is it stated somewhere in the book?

i doubt you would fine a number...this is one of the things that is up to the discretion of the copper.... there are a lot of factors other then a number. They couldnt put a number because of things like weather and road conditions...you can also get a ticket for going the speed limit in some cases...too fast for the conditions...like if there is a lot of snow...

[bigred875]

I think you need to care less about the way the laws are written and more about your actions....even if you are 100% legal with everything...if an asshole cop wants to give you a ticket they will..right, wrong or indifferent...facts of life man...better get used to it..

[Kham]

yes!!! so it comes down to whether if the cop didn't beat his wife that day or not. you could get fuck depending how he feels.

[Kham]

i heard you loud and clear. there's nothing anyone can do unless you know someone of high power. all i can do is call them asshole.

[bigred875]

Originally posted by Kham
i heard you loud and clear. there's nothing anyone can do unless you know someone of high power. all i can do is call them asshole.

lol..now you got it lol oh and dont call them an asshole when they are listening

[bemused]

Kham, ole buddy...

yer goin' thru a coupla threads here, chewing up hours of time and buckets of bandwidth, trying very hard to make a point that is evidently very important to you.

which is... what, exactly?

that the world ain't binary?

that, whenever you have human beans involved, things aren't cut 'n' dried, black 'n' white, yes or no?

okay... point conceded.



or... is it just that the world is unfair to Kham?

[RSVMILLE661]

Kham, You REALLY need to let this go. If I were a cop and pulled you over and you started whining like this I would have given you a ticket out of spite. The cold hard reality is that we are all adults and are responsible for our own actions.

On the race track we as riders are responsible to pass cleanly and safely while racing. On the road ways, we as drivers are responsible for identifying and obeying posted speed limits and other lawful signage.

Simply put. Its over, deal with it.

[Kham]

Originally posted by bemused


that, whenever you have human beans involved, things aren't cut 'n' dried, black 'n' white, yes or no?




or... is it just that the world is unfair to Kham?

this one and just asking don't so hard whenever me or anyone post a speed ticket topic unless the person has a real bad atitude and don't care about anything or anyone.

edit: i mean not me. i know the world is not binary. i just wish all the cops do. that's all.

[Kham]

Originally posted by RSVMILLE661
Kham, You REALLY need to let this go. If I were a cop and pulled you over and you started whining like this I would have given you a ticket out of spite. The cold hard reality is that we are all adults and are responsible for our own actions.

On the race track we as riders are responsible to pass cleanly and safely while racing. On the road ways, we as drivers are responsible for identifying and obeying posted speed limits and other lawful signage.

Simply put. Its over, deal with it.

listen carefully. im not that stupid. again, i did not say a word unless a question was ask. comon. give me some credit. i posted A topic in here about a grumpy judge and that asshole cop. that was all. i continued because you, not you, continued.

[dhuze]

OK Kham Let me try (notice I said try) to explain this to you. The only place there is a minimum speed limit is on the highways/interstates. If you are cruising unusually slow for an area the police can and will pull you over because, as previously stated, many times drunk people (the ones YOU think should get tickets) will drive too slow. The police don't need a broken light or for them to be swerving to give them "probable cause". Driving unusually slow is "just cause" to check them out.

You have tickets on your license so You stand less of a chance now of getting a break when you get pulled over. YOu may not like it , But thats the way it is. If you get tickets and keep speeding then you haven't learned your lesson yet so you will get another.

I used to get lots of tickets. My driving record is 27 pages and I never got a ticket I didn't deserve. I have a clean record now and on the rare occasion I get pulled over I have got warnings. Why? Because I have no tickets and I wasn't driving way over the posted speed limit.

You need to let this go. The police are not out there looking to get you. You broke the law you got caught , You tried to win in court and lost. You broke the law you payed the price. You have to live with it. If you don't want any more tickets STOP speeding.