[Degsy]

Originally Posted by s a x m a n

slide is the wrong term probably, i guess it would be more of a push ... which I know I have felt at times when running low 18s and the couple of 17s ... not saying by any stretch of the imagination that this is something I do on purpose, or that I expect it everytime, but I do have movement of the front ... call it what you will

Yep, that's what I mean when i say "edge of traction". Only place I ever felt it was 9. Felt it twice in turn 2 but lost the front both times.

I have locked up the front coming into 1 and started to tuck, but when you let off the brakes at 130mph the bike tends to straighten up and not slide out.

derek

[s a x m a n]

and as Kates points out I also have lots to learn .... :grin:

[OreoGitorio]

Originally Posted by Degsy

Slide the front going anywhere but in a straight line and you're down. End of story.

Times i've crashed on the track: 3
Times i've slid the front in a turn: more than 3... and I suck

Do you consider a "push" different from a "slide"?

[gmdboston]

..and I doubt there are more than 3 people at Loudon who can do it even marginally,

True

Slide the front going anywhere but in a straight line and you're down. End of story.

Not true

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

Do you consider a "push" different from a "slide"?

Yes, because it is. :-)

derek

[Crash Dummy Denno]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

Do you consider a "push" different from a "slide"?

i thought it was

[gmdboston]

Originally Posted by s a x m a n

slide is the wrong term probably, i guess it would be more of a push ... which I know I have felt at times when running low 18s and the couple of 17s ... not saying by any stretch of the imagination that this is something I do on purpose, or that I expect it everytime, but I do have movement of the front ... call it what you will

Slide and push are the same thing, unless you are referring to hitting water or oil, then it's a slide, splat. The opposite of slide or push is a tuck. You can control the push by turning the bars into the turn, and using the throttle. A tuck is an almost instant low side, you must be very lucky or very, very good to save it.

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by gmdboston

Slide and push are the same thing, unless you are referring to hitting water or oil, then it's a slide, splat.

We could start an oil thread!!!

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by gmdboston

..and I doubt there are more than 3 people at Loudon who can do it even marginally,

True

Slide the front going anywhere but in a straight line and I'm down. End of story.

true

I fixed it.

[gmdboston]

Originally Posted by Degsy

We could start an oil thread!!!

Three things that should never be discussed on the internet:

1) Politics
2) Religion
3) Motor oil........

Discussions of mineral vs synthetics have started wars.

[OreoGitorio]

Hillary Clinton uses WWJD Full Synth!

*runs for cover

[Crash Dummy Denno]

so at this point for me, slide or push, either way = fractured clavy

interesting topic

seriously

Denno

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by gmdboston

Three things that should never be discussed on the internet:

1) Politics
2) Religion
3) Motor oil........

Discussions of mineral vs synthetics have started wars.

1. All politicians are corrupt. The populace should revolt and NO-ONE should vote. The system would collapse and chaos would reign. Sweet.
2. Spritualism and the abstract concept of "God" are within ones own mind. Organized religion is a way of charging you for knowing that.
3. Synthetic oil will make a wet clutch slip/


One of the above is false. Which one?

[Crash Dummy Denno]

is mobil 1 ok for my bike even if its not motorcycle specific?

[OreoGitorio]

This is why we can't have nice forums.

[RyanNicholson]

i consider a "push" to be slide....maybe not an all-out-bike-going-sideways kinda slide, but its definitely the tire "pushing" sideways sliding on some kind of level. I may be wrong but thats what I was referring to anyway.

other than that, the last time i legit "slid" the front tire I ended up cartwheeling over the tire wall between 8 and 9.

[CMG241]

Originally Posted by Degsy

1. All politicians are corrupt. The populace should revolt and NO-ONE should vote. The system would collapse and chaos would reign. Sweet.
2. Spritualism and the abstract concept of "God" are within ones own mind. Organized religion is a way of charging you for knowing that.
3. Synthetic oil will make a wet clutch slip/


One of the above is false. Which one?

number 3

[theQman23]

I know I"m an outsider, and I"ll get flamed repeatedly for this comment, buuutt.... if God is a concept within ones' own mind how did this happen for me? I went 31 years not believing, and thinking that preachers and ministers were just trying to make money too..... then, because of a tradgedy in my family I went to an independent church that was not part of an "organized" group, or in other words, it didn't have a "parent company". After reading the Bible through cover to cover, praying to God for help, and tithing the first tenth of my very humble financial fruits, I went from being an employee who had to work two jobs to pay the bills, to being self employed, employing four other people, and growing a business that has doubled every year for the past four years. I know my view is not popular, and I apologize for that, I can only share what has actually and factually happened for me, once I started reading the instruction book, and started living accordingly. If you want to be harsh on hypochritical spiritual leaders, or if you want to slam "organized religion" I"ll probably stand right next to you and shout the loudest. Those types peeve me off too.... Any organization ran by men will have it's faults. But the Lord is real, and he loves us all. I've taken his promises out of his book and put them to the test, and he proved himself for me every single time. Enjoy the coming season, and ride safely.
-Quentin

[OreoGitorio]

I don't care what or who you believe in, NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR YOUR BELIEFS.

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by theQman23

I know I"m an outsider, and I"ll get flamed repeatedly for this comment, buuutt.... if God is a concept within ones' own mind how did this happen for me? I went 31 years not believing, and thinking that preachers and ministers were just trying to make money too..... then, because of a tradgedy in my family I went to an independent church that was not part of an "organized" group, or in other words, it didn't have a "parent company". After reading the Bible through cover to cover, praying to God for help, and tithing the first tenth of my very humble financial fruits, I went from being an employee who had to work two jobs to pay the bills, to being self employed, employing four other people, and growing a business that has doubled every year for the past four years. I know my view is not popular, and I apologize for that, I can only share what has actually and factually happened for me, once I started reading the instruction book, and started living accordingly. If you want to be harsh on hypochritical spiritual leaders, or if you want to slam "organized religion" I"ll probably stand right next to you and shout the loudest. Those types peeve me off too.... Any organization ran by men will have it's faults. But the Lord is real, and he loves us all. I've taken his promises out of his book and put them to the test, and he proved himself for me every single time. Enjoy the coming season, and ride safely.
-Quentin

Quentin, I think that we think in almost the same manner. You had it in you all the time, it just took some guidance to find it. I'm saying that I think I found the meaning of it all without having to look anywhere but within.

Sorry to come accross as all heavy with this stuff, i really didn't mean to steer this in a religious direction.

Back to tires!!!

[Degsy]

Originally Posted by CMG41

number 3

Ding!!!

[a13x]

I agree with theQman23.

Also, like Saxybaby, sliding front and rear in turn 2 was always a good time (in a i just shit my pants sort of way). At least until the time it went too far and I fell. Boohiss. Used to do it on the Hawk bunch, not as much on motard. Only got to really hammer the motard on that one weekend however (june07) and didn't get laptimes below 1:20 (). Motard really isn't even pushing that hard at that pace.

[CMG241]

Originally Posted by theQman23

I know I"m an outsider, and I"ll get flamed repeatedly for this comment, buuutt.... if God is a concept within ones' own mind how did this happen for me? .......
-Quentin

We call it a coincidence in my house. My mother in law ran over an old lady in a cross walk leaving church years ago (true story), I doubt it was because the lady didn't pray hard enough. To each their own.

[Crash Dummy Denno]

umm guys, tires....

typical bridgestone guy trying to derail a thread about michelin... bold move Q, bold move


Denno

[Karaya One]

Quentin sells both.