[hessogood]

Originally posted by Honclfibr
WTF is a software engineer? Because I'm pretty sure I am one too, but that's just a title I gave myself. I'm also president and chief technology officer of my own company, HonCorp. We design advanced synergy. And we're better than you.

I specialize in synergy, with a masters in thinking outside the box, I did my undergrad work in moving forward toward closure and pulling the trigger on paradigms.

[WebCrush]

Here's a simple idea--how about they just use the pre-reg system that CCS uses.

Loudon is CCS, right? Every other CCS region is pre-reg'able through the CCS website.

[Honclfibr]

Originally posted by hessogood
I specialize in synergy, with a masters in thinking outside the box, I did my undergrad work in moving forward toward closure and pulling the trigger on paradigms.

HonCorp has been looking for such a master of industry as yourself. We'd like you to come in for an interview for the position of Chief Bullsh...err, Buzzword Officer. I'm sure you'll find our offer most generous; we're prepared to offer 4 billion shares in HonCorp stock options for the right candidate.

[HBerry]

HBerry Inc specializes in Franklin Covey training and Covey brand sales

[HBerry]

Originally posted by HBerry
HBerry Inc specializes in Franklin Covey training and Covey brand sales

This includes but is not limited to:

Habit 1: Be Proactive®
Take responsibility for your life.

Habit 2: Begin with the End in Mind®
Define your mission and goals in life.

Habit 3: Put First Things First®
Prioritize and do the most important things first.

Habit 4: Think Win-Win®
Have an "everyone-can-win" attitude.

Habit 5: Seek First to Understand, Then to Be Understood®
Listen to people sincerely.

Habit 6: Synergize®
Work together to achieve more.

Habit 7: Sharpen the Saw®
Renew yourself regularly.

[Honclfibr]

Habit 8: Trademark everything®
That's hot.

[nefarious]

Originally posted by Honclfibr
WTF is a software engineer? Because I'm pretty sure I am one too, but that's just a title I gave myself. I'm also president and chief technology officer of my own company, HonCorp. We design advanced synergy. And we're better than you.

Not sure what it means for your company, but here i just design games for the lottery

[HBerry]

Originally posted by nefarious
Not sure what it means for your company, but here i just design games for the lottery

Do you have an engineering degree?

To start another debate, America is about the only place you can get an engineering title without having an engineering degree. If you went to Europe and started saying you were an engineer without the degree you would be laughed out of the conversation.

[nefarious]

and in america degrees are handed out when the check is signed... do i have one, no, been to busy getting paid to worry about it.. may it hold me back from advancing.. sure, but when i hit that crossroads ill deal with it.

imo degrees are overated especially in ever changing field.

but then again your just a young green student and sound a lot like my x girlfriend whos about to get her masters, just to work at a resturant in bristol....

[HBerry]

Originally posted by nefarious
and in america degrees are handed out when the check is signed... do i have one, no, been to busy getting paid to worry about it.. may it hold me back from advancing.. sure, but when i hit that crossroads ill deal with it.

imo degrees are overated especially in ever changing field.

Just a question and another topic for debate. I was an 'engineer' at one point and I was a freshmen in college

[nefarious]

i know its just a question, and im not taking any offense.

only degree that may help me in happiness, and advancment is a BFA

but im good for now

[Rick Lee]

I have a B.S. in Mickey mouse engineering. Give me some duct tape and a BFH and i'll build you whatever you want

[Honclfibr]

Originally posted by HBerry
Do you have an engineering degree?

To start another debate, America is about the only place you can get an engineering title without having an engineering degree. If you went to Europe and started saying you were an engineer without the degree you would be laughed out of the conversation.

In the U.S. you cannot use the word "engineer" in a legal sense unless you have a PE certification. Our consulting company technically has an "illegal" name since we have the word engineer in the title but neither my father nor I is a PE. Though we both have degrees.

Very few degreed electrical or computer engineers get their PE certification as it means almost nothing in the industry. I'm told this is not true for other areas though, notably Civil, where being a PE is often a requirement.

[nefarious]

Originally posted by Honclfibr
In the U.S. you cannot use the word "engineer" in a legal sense unless you have a PE certification. Our consulting company technically has an "illegal" name since we have the word engineer in the title but neither my father nor I is a PE. Though we both have degrees.

Very few degreed electrical or computer engineers get their PE certification as it means almost nothing in the industry. I'm told this is not true for other areas though, notably Civil, where being a PE is often a requirement.

thats not accurate
http://www.graduatingengineer.com/ar...e/11-2-99.html

taken from elsewhere

PS: I believe that the "engineer" word is permitted internally within companies as part of a job title. You just can't use the title externally and publicly unless the company has P.E.'s on staff.

and please do tell.. which exam should i take to fix this dilemma

Ag Agricultural PE
Chem Chemical PE
Civ Civil PE
ConSys Control Systems PE
Elec Electrical PE
Env Environmental PE
Fire Fire Protection PE
Geo Geological PE
Ind Industrial PE
Manf Manufacturing PE
Mech Mechanical PE
Met Metallurgical PE
Min/Min Mining & Mineral PE
Naval Naval Architecture/Marine Engineering PE (aka Ship Design)
Nuc Nuclear PE
Pet Petroleum PE
Ship Ship Design (aka Naval Architecture/Marine Engineering) PE

[Degsy]

You're all wasting your time. LRRS will never adopt anything you offer them with regards to simplifying or bettering the system up there.

typical conversation:

Newbie racer: "Hey, we could improve blah blah blah by doing blah blah blah."

LRRS rep or BJ Worsham will them chime in and stomp all over newbie racer and tell him not to ask for changes but to bring something of substance to the table. After all, this is a club and the members are all important in a club.*

* LRRS officials (and BJ Worsham) will call it a club when it suits them, then call it a business when it suits them. It's status changes daily, sometimes many times a day.

Newbie racer: "OK, I'll design a website with a database for registration and present it to you"

2 weeks go by and newbie racer presents his newe website with all the bells and whistles needed for LRRS to operate in a professional manner.

LRRS rep or BJ Worsham: "Nah, thanks but we don't want any changes"

repeat several times a year for eternity.




Bottom line is, don't even try to change the system there. You are wasting everybody's time and energy. Just go along with the archaic system they use and learn the short cuts to make it a little more bearable.


Oh, another thing. I hope all the new racers are happy with getting plenty of practice time. You'll quickly realise that the experts are going so damn fast in practice (close to the speed of light) that they can actually stretch time. 20 minutes of novice practice generally lasts about 60% of the time a 20 minute expert practice does. I have complained about this before and even timed practice sessions with a witness. I was told that I was making lies up and that I was totally wrong. Check for yourselves and you will discover the truth.

derek

[Honclfibr]

Originally posted by nefarious
and please do tell.. which exam should i take to fix this dilemma

If you wanted a PE certification, you would take the EE exam, as EE is the basis for computing sciences. Not that it really matters, PE exams are very broad in scope, the idea being that you're an engineer first, a specialist second. There will be lots of general physics/chemistry/calculus problems on there. Most engineers who want one take it right out of school, when the general math&science knowledge is still fresh. I doubt I could pass a PE exam right now without some serious study. Fortunately, I doubt I'll ever need to.

[nefarious]

Originally posted by Honclfibr
If you wanted a PE certification, you would take the EE exam, as EE is the basis for computing sciences. Not that it really matters, PE exams are very broad in scope, the idea being that you're an engineer first, a specialist second. There will be lots of general physics/chemistry/calculus problems on there. Most engineers who want one take it right out of school, when the general math&science knowledge is still fresh. I doubt I could pass a PE exam right now without some serious study. Fortunately, I doubt I'll ever need to.

Do you mean FE? either way there still doesnt seemt to be an accredation for the term Engineer when refering to software development

[WebCrush]

Originally posted by Degsy
You're all wasting your time. LRRS will never adopt anything you offer them with regards to simplifying or bettering the system up there.

typical conversation:

Newbie racer: "Hey, we could improve blah blah blah by doing blah blah blah."

LRRS rep or BJ Worsham will them chime in and stomp all over newbie racer and tell him not to ask for changes but to bring something of substance to the table. After all, this is a club and the members are all important in a club.*

* LRRS officials (and BJ Worsham) will call it a club when it suits them, then call it a business when it suits them. It's status changes daily, sometimes many times a day.

Newbie racer: "OK, I'll design a website with a database for registration and present it to you"

2 weeks go by and newbie racer presents his newe website with all the bells and whistles needed for LRRS to operate in a professional manner.

LRRS rep or BJ Worsham: "Nah, thanks but we don't want any changes"

repeat several times a year for eternity.




Bottom line is, don't even try to change the system there. You are wasting everybody's time and energy. Just go along with the archaic system they use and learn the short cuts to make it a little more bearable.


Oh, another thing. I hope all the new racers are happy with getting plenty of practice time. You'll quickly realise that the experts are going so damn fast in practice (close to the speed of light) that they can actually stretch time. 20 minutes of novice practice generally lasts about 60% of the time a 20 minute expert practice does. I have complained about this before and even timed practice sessions with a witness. I was told that I was making lies up and that I was totally wrong. Check for yourselves and you will discover the truth.

derek

*Applause*

[Honclfibr]

Originally posted by nefarious
Do you mean FE? either way there still doesnt seemt to be an accredation for the term Engineer when refering to software development

Right. As far as the Society of Professional Engineers is concerned, there is no such thing as Software Engineering. Nor Computer Engineering for that matter; my degree is widely considered to be a watered down version of an EE degree with some non-engineering courses thrown in. Which it is, I suppose. But in terms of practical application, it's considerably closer to what I do on a day to day basis than an EE courseload would have been.

[Honclfibr]

Originally posted by Degsy
Oh, another thing. I hope all the new racers are happy with getting plenty of practice time. You'll quickly realise that the experts are going so damn fast in practice (close to the speed of light) that they can actually stretch time. 20 minutes of novice practice generally lasts about 60% of the time a 20 minute expert practice does. I have complained about this before and even timed practice sessions with a witness. I was told that I was making lies up and that I was totally wrong. Check for yourselves and you will discover the truth.

derek

That 20 minute session did seem awful short on sunday, I figured I was just nervous though didn't realize it was a conspiracy

[Stoneman]

Originally posted by Honclfibr
That 20 minute session did seem awful short on sunday, I figured I was just nervous though didn't realize it was a conspiracy

I've been witness to said timing of practice sessions. Went something like this...

Experts (that's what they were called 'back then'): After a 30 minute practice session, wunna the Woods boys got about 10 laps all by his lonesome so he could test his new racebike...

Am & Jr: (again, that's what they were called 'back then'): 12 minutes...

Experts: 26 minutes or some shit like that...

Am & Jr: A tick over 15 minutes...

Rinse & repeat...

[highsider]

Originally posted by Degsy
You're all wasting your time. LRRS will never adopt anything you offer them with regards to simplifying or bettering the system up there.

typical conversation:

Newbie racer: "Hey, we could improve blah blah blah by doing blah blah blah."

LRRS rep or BJ Worsham will them chime in and stomp all over newbie racer and tell him not to ask for changes but to bring something of substance to the table. After all, this is a club and the members are all important in a club.*

* LRRS officials (and BJ Worsham) will call it a club when it suits them, then call it a business when it suits them. It's status changes daily, sometimes many times a day.

Newbie racer: "OK, I'll design a website with a database for registration and present it to you"

2 weeks go by and newbie racer presents his newe website with all the bells and whistles needed for LRRS to operate in a professional manner.

LRRS rep or BJ Worsham: "Nah, thanks but we don't want any changes"

repeat several times a year for eternity.




Bottom line is, don't even try to change the system there. You are wasting everybody's time and energy. Just go along with the archaic system they use and learn the short cuts to make it a little more bearable.


Oh, another thing. I hope all the new racers are happy with getting plenty of practice time. You'll quickly realise that the experts are going so damn fast in practice (close to the speed of light) that they can actually stretch time. 20 minutes of novice practice generally lasts about 60% of the time a 20 minute expert practice does. I have complained about this before and even timed practice sessions with a witness. I was told that I was making lies up and that I was totally wrong. Check for yourselves and you will discover the truth.

derek

Wow, thanks Degs. For a minute I was considering getting into bike racing, you just saved me a shitload of money.

[SBT Deb]

REMINDER!!!!

To all Novice LRRS Racers just a reminder that anyone in the following classes will be eligible for Contingency this weekend:
LW Supersport
GTL
MW Superbike
There will not be an announcement over the PA so stop by Garage 19 if you need another schedule or information. Certificates will be available for pick up at the end of each race day after the final results have been posted.

[Honclfibr]

Beet you gotta show the newbies which lever to pull, man.

[OreoGitorio]

hmm.. i'm gonna have to fight pretty hard to get contingency in GTL