[a13x]

Originally posted by R7
Supersingles
Thunderbike
Lightweight Sportsman
GTL
Motard

How could all you donkey's forget Ultralight Superbike or Lightweight Superbike?!

[Stupidhawk007]

Originally posted by a13x
How could all you donkey's forget Ultralight Superbike or Lightweight Superbike?!

SURE, WHY DON'T YOU JUST INVITE THEM ALL IN!!

[a13x]

Originally posted by Stupidhawk007
SURE, WHY DON'T YOU JUST INVITE THEM ALL IN!!

You are in AM next year aren't you

[R7]

Originally posted by a13x
How could all you donkey's forget Ultralight Superbike or Lightweight Superbike?!

You forgot to read what I typed after my

Those are some of the most popular races for running a Motard in and being competative.

[a13x]

Originally posted by R7
You forgot to read what I typed after my

I read it I would argue that Ultralight Superbike is a better class than Thunderbike.

Based on my research best Motardy classes would be:

Motard
Super-singles
Lightweight Sportsman
Ultralight Superbike

followed by

GTL
Lightweight Superbike
Lightweight Grand Prix
Thunderbike

Obviously with guys like Gosselin running 16's-18's a motard can be competitive in almost ANY class if you really wanted to get down to it.

Is it April yet?

[smf]

Originally posted by a13x
I read it I would argue that Ultralight Superbike is a better class than Thunderbike.

Based on my research best Motardy classes would be:

Motard
Super-singles
Lightweight Sportsman
Ultralight Superbike

followed by

GTL
Lightweight Superbike
Lightweight Grand Prix
Thunderbike

Obviously with guys like Gosselin running 16's-18's a motard can be competitive in almost ANY class if you really wanted to get down to it.

Is it April yet?

stupidhawk might be AM, but I'll still be novice w/ largely crappy suspension.

[Hardcore]

MOOOO TARDS SUCK -------------------------------- PERIOD

[TheIglu]

Originally posted by smf
stupidhawk might be AM, but I'll still be novice w/ largely crappy suspension.

I bumped up with crappy suspension, you just need an EX!

[Stupidhawk007]

Yeah, I'll be AM. Scott doesn't need no EX! He just needs more races.

[OreoGitorio]

Originally posted by Stupidhawk007
Yeah, I'll be AM.

[a13x]

My bad. The correct plural of 'donkey' is 'donkeys'.

See ya out

[trackdog]

Originally posted by hardcore
MOOOO TARDS SUCK -------------------------------- PERIOD

[Evil_Weasel]

momma said motards are the devil

[Stupidhawk007]

I agree, but they do look like fun.

[rebelpacket]

Why's everyone hatin' on the tards?

We're just tryin' to have some fun! Plus, their one of the cheapest bikes to race! (as long as you don't blow 'em up).

[hessogood]

We hate on motards because they're a point and shoot bike, they get into nearly any class and have no need for or sense of lines in comparison to a race bike. They throw off the rythme, the lines, and block passes (even not for possition ) Motards belong in the motard class or on a supermoto track. I see them as a loophole in the rules and an obsticle in most classes.

Oh, and just about anyone can get on a motard and put down low 20's without knowing what they're doing.....take Heath for example!

[Paul_E_D]

Any bike that gets wildly popular really quick gets a little bashed by the people who resist the trend. It happened with EXs, then SVs, now motards. Basically any new lightweight that shakes the status quo will cause this. Something better than the motards will come along, and then all the motard guys will decry it. It's human nature to criticize what you don't have... and to bond with others while doing it... I wouldn't take it personally. Just beat em to the line!!!

[mmracer37]

Originally posted by Evil_Weasel
momma said motards are the devil

"Momma's wrong again"

[hessogood]

I'm not saying they're not a blast and I'm not saying it doesn't take talent to put down fast times on them. We all know both are true. I mostly just want one for urban mischief though. using the sidewalks, pedestrian bridges, jumping curbs and park benches....you know the stuff that keeps my lawyers in business.,,,,

[rebelpacket]

Originally posted by hessogood
We hate on motards because they're a point and shoot bike, they get into nearly any class and have no need for or sense of lines in comparison to a race bike.

All your lines belong to us.

I think Paul hit the nail on the head. "Dirtbikes? What the hell are dirtbikes doing at a roadracing track!"

[Rick Lee]

All your lines are belong to us!

[Evil_Weasel]

i don't actually hate motards. though one decided to park in front of me in turn 3 once in morning practice of all things. i've passed some motards and have been passed by motards and that was the only close call. they actually look like fun and i wouldn't mind giving one a go, but i'm really short and don't do well on dirt bikes....nor do i have much dirt bike experaince. i doubt i'd ride it well.

as far as the taking of lines and what not i could ask that motard riders be careful....but that already pretty much applies to everyone that races anyways.

[OreoGitorio]

I've been in a couple SCARY races w/ motards... Most notable one was a novice PTwins race where they started the SuperSingles in the front row of the PTwins wave. Clayton & I were both just as fast, if not faster than a few of those guys, but they were riding like idiots almost taking themselves out & others on a number of occations. We passed em a few times only to be stuffed somewhere else in the same lap. I think Clayton & I did 26's & 27's for most of that race battling w/ those jokers where we shoulda been doing 24's & 25's riding in clear track.

Bottom line, there were multiple very close calls during that entire race that shouldn't have happened if they were riding smart. It was seriously gettin outta hand.

[Rick Lee]

Originally posted by OreoGitorio
I've been in a couple SCARY races w/ motards... Most notable one was a novice PTwins race where they started the SuperSingles in the front row of the PTwins wave. Clayton & I were both just as fast, if not faster than a few of those guys, but they were riding like idiots almost taking themselves out & others on a number of occations. We passed em a few times only to be stuffed somewhere else in the same lap. I think Clayton & I did 26's & 27's for most of that race battling w/ those jokers where we shoulda been doing 24's & 25's riding in clear track.

Bottom line, there were multiple very close calls during that entire race that shouldn't have happened if they were riding smart. It was seriously gettin outta hand.

Pussy

[Paul_E_D]

Getting stuck behind people that are 1-2 seconds slower than you is just part of learning. It's not exclusive to motards. Any bike that has different power characteristics will be tough to pass. It takes some time to learn what it takes to put them behind you and keep them there.

Rough and erratic riding does seem to be part of motard "culture" though. It's much easier to recover from a big bump/hit when you have 7 inches of travel, and sit very near the steering pivot. That kind of stuff shouldn't be tolerated too much in roadracing. It does get dangerous IMO.