[Doc]

Originally Posted by Pittenger5

Yes, except in this case Doc's more "mildly irked" instead of "full blown aneurysm"

I am mellowing now that I am gonna be a Daddy. You want me to slip into the "uber duper anti squid" ???

Originally Posted by bergs

Baahahahahahaha! Well played! OMFG well played!

This is the "real" me. Find me at the trackday. I am not all that bad.

Originally Posted by bergs

See, it's the idiots I worry about the most......I mean the real dickholes that just don't get it...guess that could be found just about anywhere though...

ALOT of em in Novice. It is SOOO much better in Amatuer and I feel safer, even though I seem to be trying harder. People know the lines and are more predictable.

EVERY weekend in Novice you have a bunch of noobs who have NEVER raced.

[RyanNicholson]

Originally Posted by bergs

See, it's the idiots I worry about the most......I mean the real dickholes that just don't get it...guess that could be found just about anywhere though...

like the guy i mentioned early in this thread....they dont last long, there really aren't many though...but there are a lot of n00bz. most people that get into racing are actually really intelligent people....i think you have to be to understand what it takes to be fast.

either way, you'll have the time of your life....i guarantee you that

[RyanNicholson]

Originally Posted by Doc

This is the "real" me. Find me at the trackday. I am not all that bad.

i can vouch for this.....doc is pretty cool.


except after a few beers in the red roof parking lot when he tried to give me a colonoscopy....i'm only 22 man...c'mon....seriously?

[Doc]

You liked it.

[bergs]

Originally Posted by Doc

EVERY weekend in Novice you have a bunch of noobs who have NEVER raced.

HEY! Someday that's gonna be me you're talking about!


BTW, Doc, I already know your bark is louder than your bite......you big soft teddy bear, you!

[OreoGitorio]

Originally Posted by bergs

Having never been in a racing pack, how different could it be?

Shall I count the ways?

Track days - no inside passing.
Racing - inside, outside.... over, under, through... whatever works.

Track days - no passing in "flip-flop" areas.
Racing - Pass WHEN you can, WHEREVER you can.

Track days - Oops, blew a turn... oh well. People will slow down & let me come back on the track.
Racing - Oops, blew a turn... now lost 10 places... hope I don't get run over while re-entering the track.

Track days - ooh, keep your distance, don't get too close... 6 feet of space minimum!
Racing - What's that? Paint from your bike is on my fairing? What? No, you can't have it back.

Track days - "Sorry about that pass, hope I didn't startle you"
Racing - "Sorry I put you in the hospital"

Track days - 20 minutes of riding at 80-90% of your ability.
Racing - 8 laps or 15 minutes of riding at no less than about 97% of your ability.

Track days - Take a couple laps at the beginning of each session to warm up your tire, body & mind
Racing - Green flag means GO NOW, MUTHAFUKKA!!!

Track days - Oil filter wired? Check.... ok, good to go.
Racing - OK, wiring... Oil filter? Oil filler cap? radiator cap? front axle pinch bolts? rear axle nut? Caliper bolts? Radiator drain? Oil drain? ... God I hope I pass tech

etc etc etc... you get the picture

This post by no means should turn you off of racing... it's fantastic being out there... it's just that it's a whole new world compared to Track Days.

[s a x m a n]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

Shall I count the ways?

Track days - no inside passing.
Racing - inside, outside.... over, under, through... whatever works.

Track days - no passing in "flip-flop" areas.
Racing - WHEN you can, WHEREVER you can.

Track days - Oops, blew a turn... oh well. People will slow down & let me come back on the track.
Racing - Oops, blew a turn... now lost 10 places... hope I don't get run over while re-entering the track.

Track days - ooh, keep your distance, don't get too close... 6 feet of space minimum!
Racing - What's that? Paint from your bike is on my fairing? What? No, you can't have it back.

Track days - "Sorry about that pass, hope I didn't startle you"
Racing - "Sorry I put you in the hospital"

Track days - 20 minutes of riding at 80-90% of your ability.
Racing - 8 laps or 15 minutes of riding at no less than about 97% of your ability.

Track days - Take a couple laps at the beginning of each session to warm up your tire, body & mind
Racing - Green flag means GO NOW, MUTHAFUKKA!!!

Track days - Oil filter wired? Check.... ok, good to go.
Racing - OK, wiring... Oil filter? Oil filler cap? radiator cap? front axle pinch bolts? rear axle nut? Caliper bolts? Radiator drain? Oil drain? ... God I hope I pass tech

etc etc etc... you get the picture

GREAT POST!!!

[mmracer37]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

Track days - 20 minutes of riding at 80-90% of your ability.
Racing - 8 laps or 15 minutes of riding at no less than about 97% of your ability.

97% ????......if you wanna win it better be 100% all the time.

And when I do the rookie race it's 200% so I can get the hell out of the way

[Doc]

Originally Posted by mmracer37

And when I do the rookie race it's 200% so I can get the hell out of the way

I have to elaborate.

As a noob who just made AM status for the last race weekend.... I never really knew what people were talking about when they said Novice was dangerous. I figured they were not remembering and I just thought it was all a part of racing. (all the crazy stuff that goes on in Novice, thank god it is at slower speeds)

Going 3 wide into turn 3 in Novice is scary, you don't know if people are gonna hold their lines or panic or what.

Going 3 wide into trun 3 in AM is better. People hold their lines and you have more confidence because you know everyone has some races under their belts.

The scary thing in AM is getting the paint sucked off your bike when the Unlimited guys come flying past you on the 3rd lap!

[Crash Dummy Denno]

Originally Posted by mmracer37

And when I do the rookie race it's 200% so I can get the hell out of the way

haha - degsy was just explaining to me why you have "rookie race champ" under your name... too funny

[Pittenger5]

Doc, Im just pokin a little fun, youre an all around good dude I have no problems with you whatsoever. In fact I share a lot of your opinions on squidliness, but my approach is quite different, but hey whatever.

And as for the racing, yes, novice is scary, and I cant wait to bump for a number of reasons, but you will learn REAL quick who to give a WIIIDE berth to when passing. I have a list of bikes that I look for, so as long as you're aware, its not the worst thing in the world. But God I hope I bump soon

[Pittenger5]

Originally Posted by Denno

haha - degsy was just explaining to me why you have "rookie race champ" under your name... too funny

But wait, hes never finished a rookie race, how can he be the champ?

Its always the best when peoples family members come up to watch and dont realize, they're always like, HOLY CRAP THAT GUY IS FLYING!

[tls25rs]

Originally Posted by SVRACER01

im racing Joels motard this year

It would be really helpful, for you to be able to do this that is, if I had my bike back and it's motor in one piece..................................

[mmracer37]

Originally Posted by Pittenger5

But wait, hes never finished a rookie race, how can he be the champ?

Its always the best when peoples family members come up to watch and dont realize, they're always like, HOLY CRAP THAT GUY IS FLYING!

Hey, wait a minute........ I did win one rookie race, 13 years ago when I started racing

[TheIglu]

Originally Posted by OreoGitorio

Shall I count the ways?


Track days - "Sorry about that pass, hope I didn't startle you"
Racing - "Sorry I put you in the hospital"

Hey, at least I drove you there and back, right?

[TheIglu]

I agree with most of the posts above. Racing in NV is pretty wild in the big bike classes. The EX'ers, SV'ers and 2-smoke guys seem to have their heads on straight for the most part even in novice. When you get into AM, it's a whole different ballgame. Still fun, but you have to work a little harder to keep up at the top. I know Prod Twins isn't a "real" class, but going from the wicked easy 1st places in NV to the hard fought 1st and 2nds in AM was a big big change. The racing was tighter (i've bumped a 125 going out of 2 more than once, only time I'm glad the EX is as heavy as it is) but the people can race closer without issue (or as many issues).

For the money you would spend racing that liter bike three weekends on tires alone, you could BUY an EX racebike and enough tires to last you 4 races a weekend for the whole season. That and little/lighter bikes are just so much fun. There is a reason why the lightweights are the happiest people at the track!

[OreoGitorio]

Originally Posted by TheIglu

Hey, at least I drove you there and back, right?

hahahaha yes you did.

[Kurlon]

Heh, speaking of lightweights and fun, have you guys seen the 'Sippi Cup' crew in WERA, bone stock Ninja 250s. And I mean BONE STOCK, they're calling someone out for putting in new fork springs!

[Tricky Mike]

Can rookies run new 1000cc I-4's in the rookie race? How often does it end badly?

[RyanNicholson]

Originally Posted by trickphoto

Can rookies run new 1000cc I-4's in the rookie race? How often does it end badly?

yea to get their license they can....but like stated before the only real race they can enter is GTO.

[Doc]

Originally Posted by trickphoto

Can rookies run new 1000cc I-4's in the rookie race? How often does it end badly?

They can, The rookie race is not a race. It is 3 laps around the track that you must complete to get your license.

Absolute bone heads are the ones who bin it during the rookie race.

[RyanNicholson]

Originally Posted by Doc

They can, The rookie race is not a race. It is 3 laps around the track that you must complete to get your license.

Absolute bone heads are the ones who bin it during the rookie race.

or go on the first wave with mike





















like i did

[Tricky Mike]

Originally Posted by RyanNicholson

yea to get their license they can....but like stated before the only real race they can enter is GTO.

Right...

[BLACK SQUIRREL 441]

My last Middleweight race Was GTO a guy who just done his rookie race got his 1000 Sideways in turn one in the first lap and did not go down about 5 of us used the grass on the inside and outside of the track to get by.

[Tricky Mike]

Originally Posted by Doc

The rookie race is not a race.

Someone should tell the boneheads