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GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

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    GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    So I'm going to be putting new rearsets on the R6 in the near future, and am tempted to put on the GP shift kit at the same time , since there isn't much cost difference. Before doing so, I wanted to hear what people had to say about GP shift, i.e. pros and cons?

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    GP shift kit? You pay extra for that? Am I missing something.




    Oh, and for GP shift.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Its personal preference. It allows you to make quicker shifts since you are pushing down rather than having to get your foot under the shifter while leaned over or in transition.

    I think most people who race/track with it GP do it for the street since it keeps things simple, but if its just a street bike I really can't see a reason for it.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    It's ENTIRELY personal preference. There's no need to change whatsoever if standard works for you.

    My race bike has GP cuz the shift rod was rubbing the frame with standard shift & I can grab an upshift easier when coming outta the bowl.

    My street bike has standard shift cuz I don't have any reason to change it.

    Just do what works.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    GP for me. all my bikes minus my pitbike are GP shift.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by GixerJockey View Post
    GP shift kit? You pay extra for that? Am I missing something.
    Oh, and for GP shift.

    The shift rod runs through the frame, so rather than just flipping everything I would have to order a diff rod from woodcraft... talked to Peter Kates about it when I was down there today, and a small cost difference on top of new rearsets due to a couple extra parts being needed...

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    gp shift= no cons

    whatever you prefer

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    get it...because it just sounds cool.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Femmekat View Post
    The shift rod runs through the frame, so rather than just flipping everything I would have to order a diff rod from woodcraft... talked to Peter Kates about it when I was down there today, and a small cost difference on top of new rearsets due to a couple extra parts being needed...
    what are the new rearsets for? Bike came without?

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Yep....I'm riding around without them, lol. No, both are slightly tweaked, bent...and the one on the right is close to starting to rub the frame.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    The only downside is if someone ever has to ride your bike, it'll be disorienting to have it with GP Shift. I don't know why that may be, perhaps it'll be the fateful day Richie actually gets to roofie someone.

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    So...It would be theft deterrent AND Richie deterrent?

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    I switched to GP a couple months ago. It's pretty nifty. Still not entirely over the muscle memory of standard shift.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    It will gain you absolutely nothing on the street.

    The track, however, is a different story.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Femmekat View Post


    So...It would be theft deterrent AND Richie deterrent?

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    dude richie hasnt posted in this thread and he is getting dawged.....people are ruthless.

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    ^^

    He'll be in once the morning comes....rest assured.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Do it... I found that when I would get lazy using standard shift, I found either neutral or a false neutral when up shifting. Now that I've converted to GP, I rarely miss a shift.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    It's ENTIRELY personal preference. There's no need to change whatsoever if standard works for you.

    My race bike has GP cuz the shift rod was rubbing the frame with standard shift & I can grab an upshift easier when coming outta the bowl.

    My street bike has standard shift cuz I don't have any reason to change it.

    Just do what works.


    There's no good reason for you to convert to GP Shift...none at all.

    My street ride is conventional...my track bike is GP.

    Just like Pete!!!

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    For street, it's a slightly less safe option because first gear is now on top and it's not as intuitive to get the bike into first in an emergency stop. Stomping the lever down just makes sense in an emergency.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    For street, it's a slightly less safe option because first gear is now on top and it's not as intuitive to get the bike into first in an emergency stop. Stomping the lever down just makes sense in an emergency.
    or when you have a brain fart and attempt to grab 3rd gear at the second gear redline...and forget your bike is GP.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    i had a chrome 80tooth sprocket, i mean... i was in wyoming back when there was no speed limit, i mean... i was at the track...

    either way, i'm staying conventional shift pattern, i dont think i can break this muscle memory without breaking my bike. plus as stated, its not necessary for most people.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    Personally, I prefer GP, but it's all preference. I am going to switch my EX, but only becase there is a spot or two on the track where I can't grab an up when I want to at the lean angle - no room to get the boot under. And, I like it more. And it sounds cooler. And I feel like just banging down is a more solid, can't miss, faster shift. I'd call it personal preference.

    If you ride it on the track make sure to put GP SHIFT somewhere very visible, like on the tank on duct tape. CW's need to be able to find neutral if you bin it.

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    Re: GP Shift - Pros/Cons?

    I find with GP shit I have more positive up-shifts. Rather than relying on you ankle to flick the lever up you allow the weight of you leg to apply the force to rotate the shift drum and allow the detent arm to fully seat. If you don't, this is when you get the trans to jump around out of gear. Most mist missed shifts can be attributed to a weak ankle up shift.

    Also once you are using all the power of your bike it is easier to step down on the shifter to up shift so you can use all of the power in the next gear.


    Down shifting with GP only requires a flick of you ankle as the transmission will roll and allow the detent arm to lock into the down shifted gear.

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