My unprofessional review of the debates:
Newt and Santorum did a lot better than I would have thought.
Perry was just taking up space and air talking about the 13th largest economy, and how there is a Texas Edition Ford F150.
Romney came under attack (most notably by Santorum, which I enjoyed) and didn't do much to commit to anything, especially releasing his income tax: something to the effect of "I'm open to it, come April"
Paul caught a bad rap after the whole killing terrorists thing. I think he could have answered that one short and sweet by saying he believes in laws and the judicial system.
Also, has anyone told Romney that investing in a company doesn't mean you create jobs? It sounded a lot like he was claiming his firm helped to create 120,000 jobs across Yum Brands and a few other companies... Kinda like how Al Gore invented the internet.
Romney is amazingly tight lipped about his venture capitalist days... something attack ads are going to have a field day with.
I usually start with a documentary and then research the points made in it, both for an against. I did that with Loose Change, as there are plenty of websites that are dedicated to "debunking" the conspiracy theories.
I work at home and that really just means sitting here for 6 hours a day responding to emails a few times, so I have lots of time to read this shit.
In this specific case, there are quite a few reputable reporters who all say the same thing: Fox has an agenda, they dictate it to you every morning and tell you what you'll be talking about and any deviation from that will get you fired.
I usually direct people to documentaries because I don't think most people have the attention span to read 20 different articles on a subject and draw their own conclusions. If they did, we'd be a far more informed populous and we probably wouldn't be in the shitty position we're in in terms of democracy, etc.
As a side note, I was reading the Hunger Games books this weekend and at the end of the third one, one of the characters talks about panem et circenses, or the bread and circuses used to placate the Romans while their government grew more corrupt, broken and eventually collapsed.
Its not very hard to recognize that we have the same thing in America. Fast food is our bread and we have so many circuses that people get to choose what mindless activity draws their attention from legitimate social issues. Its a bit funny that UFC uses gladiator scenes in its opening montage during events. I don't think its any coincidence that the further our society falls, the more popular extreme sports, more violent fighting, etc become more popular.
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Lol. I didn't post the original post as a mass resident or as a mass voter (I'm not). I am not surprised at mass electing Kerry, Kennedy, Romney, Patrick etc. mass has a history of voting idiocy. I expect it of mass no just did NOT expect it of NH.Originally Posted by Stoneman
And because of the collegiate system, I'm afraid voting for who you think would be the best leader probably would NOT result in getting the best leader.
So the moral of the story is vote with the NWO (as announced by Bush Sr. 1990) and we will be told what happy is.
And, btw...somehow blaming the people who won't vote for Paul as the reason he's unelectable is a little like saying wet sidewalks cause rain....
(I have know idea what the Bohemian Groove is either...and don't really care.)
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I still need to see food inc and get some other info before I can make up a decision/opinion but I thought you might be interested to see their claims that food inc left out a lot of information and misrepresented things.
I find the issue of seed patenting interesting, apparently monsanto is trying to stop the 'black-market' re-use of their patented seeds that have pesticides built into them.
Apparently a huge percentage of our crops are already 'contaminated' with GMOs so unless you want to sped a shit ton of money buying only organic all the time you're kind of up the creek without a paddle. And now whole foods, the (ripoff) beacon of the healthy foodies, will be allowing the sale of GMO foods from what I hear...
Part of me also thinks this whole super health thing is just another big social movement that people will forget about in a couple years. I mean, we've been eating chemically-modified food our whole lives before this all came into the limelight, right?
Those answers on the Monsanto website sound like pretty run of the mill corporate spin to me. I think the important thing isn't to try to completely avoid these foods entirely, it's to be aware of the massive power and influence these people have and what their effect on small farmers is.
It's also important to know that Monsanto is a defense contractor, what scares me is that people don't realize how much of our every day lives that defense contractors control, from food to news to consumer goods.
Where did you read that they are a defense contractor? They provided Agent Orange to the government during the Vietnam War, but so did a huge amount of chemical manufacturers.
What do they provide for national defense now?
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They work with a little company called XE Services... Of course that's their new name. Can you guess their old name?
Fringe stuff, really. Google "XE Services Monsanto" and the first page of hits are all tin-foil hat websites.
Just because the company has contracted the former Blackwater doesn't necessarily mean it is a defense contractor.
BTW, XE Services, formerly Blackwater, is actually now called Academi.
I couldn't disagree more (respectfully of course!)
Majority anything is dangerous. It doesn't work on my ship in the gulf of mexico, it doesn't work in the military, it doesn't work in the workplace etc....
Obama a second term?????? For doing what? Your telling me his policy's are responsible for the change in the economy right now? The only thing this guy has done is blame bush and fumble around and fuck everything up. Oh and his advisors are doing a real bang up job. Valerie Jarrett is a favorite along with holder, Geithner, Axelrod etc.....Talk about Crooks.... You couldn't possibly tell me he has anything to do with the recovery. You can't possibly tell me the stimulus bill which he was pushing for-studying Mississippi mud wasp mating habits has helped the economy. He is in way over his head and has no business sense whatsoever.
I am sick and tired of Fox news and the right wing terrorizing us by yelling fire in a crowded theater.[/SIZE][/FONT]
Are times tough? You bet!
Has that ever stopped the hard working Americans before? Not yet it hasn't.
Should we give in to the fearmongering or get to work?
Well, I know what I'm going to do....[/QUOTE]
Fox News???? You THink the shit that is spewed out from Msnbc is any better? Is the Colbert report any better?
[QUOTE=ThisBitch;1137902]Its Jackie, you know, like Kennedy.
Anyway, the president's economic policies aren't what has racked up the debt we have (see below). A vast majority of our debt is the result of the 2 wars that we are fighting. Now, he's ended one of the wars and has plans to scale back the other and we're hearing about how our national security is now at stake. From whom? The Taliban? Aren't they fighting us with 30+ year old weapons that we bought for them to fight Russia?
"Speak softly but carry a big stick" Your paragraph above is an extremely myopic view of things.
The whole system is broken. Obama could have done a lot more if he had appealed to the American people to get their congress under control. That's what all great presidents have done. He did so briefly during the debt ceiling debate, but it was too late and the GOP already saw him as a spineless president, so they weren't going to cave. It will be interesting to see who takes control of the House and Senate this time 'round since America is pissed at everyone. My bet is that the left gets it.
Good god.....The dems had everything for 2 years and look at the BS they put through. You have got to be kidding me! I applaud the house for doing what they are doing. They are trying to put budgets through and look what happens-always DOA in the senate.
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