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    now that I am working on my work bench, I want to get a new bench grinder, I have an old Crapsman suppose to be ½hp, but me don't think it is, it has no power at all, it's ok for rough sharpening cause it don't have the power to overheat the steel

    I wanna get something that I can grind on, otherwise why in fuck call it a grinder, What is the gold standard, Dayton ? or runner up silver standard, and what is the sh!t to stay away from.

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    Re: Bench Grinders

    Old craftsman are generally the way to go. 70's and 80's versions are workhorses and go for big bucks. Newer isnt great. Yours might just need a service to get back into shape if you wanted to go that far. Maybe brushes will fix it.

    Anyway Daytona is a good commercial brand. Baldor is another. I assume this will be going on a bench and not a pedestal so a lot of the commercial units are to big. Even a 1/3hp Daytona will probably be much bigger than your 1/2hp craftsman.

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    Re: Bench Grinders

    Dayton (not "Daytona") or Baldor is what I've seen in the machine shops where I've worked for 40+ years.

    I've got a 1960's vintage Craftsman 6" 1/2HP bench grinder on a pedestal that my late grandfather built for it, and he passed in 1967. It works great.

    The industrial-quality Dayton & Baldor will be $700 to $1400 or far more. This JET brand is import, but I do know they are a step-up from the pedestrian quality "home shop" level stuff.

    https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...ct_17014_17014

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    Re: Bench Grinders

    this is the one that I am looking at
    https://www.grainger.com/product/DAY...-Grinder-2LKR9

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    this is the one that I am looking at
    https://www.grainger.com/product/DAY...-Grinder-2LKR9
    Good choice. The 3600 (3450 actual) RPM is key to them doing the job well. It'll have capacitor start, so the circuit doesn't blow upon startup.

    Do yourself a huge favor though, one you'll never regret. Unless you need to do serious hogging on a regular basis, get yourself a 3M Scothbrite EXL Aluminum Oxide Medium deburring wheel to replace the coarse wheel. It's superior to having a wire brush wheel for cutting rust, and can actually take off metal in a hurry if pushed.

    https://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/01722024

    It'll need the flanges to go from your grinder's 5/8" arbor to the wheel's 3" I.D., so I'll try to find those.

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    I'm also keeping my eye out for an old pedal power whetstone wheel that is in decent shape, for blade sharpening, I have a neighbor with a perfect one sitting on his farmers porch that I would like to talk him out of, even if I had to pay $500, the stone is barely worn, and no chips or cracks, might need a bearing on the axle, but that can be fixed, old large diameter stones in good shape are hard to find

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    Re: Bench Grinders

    Quote Originally Posted by SprintPoser View Post
    Good choice. The 3600 (3450 actual) RPM is key to them doing the job well.
    that is the problem with my Crapsman, I bought it back in the mid '80s, it has always slowed right down, as soon as you touch it

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    Randy, are you sure it's not something simple like a failed run capacitor?

    As far as a replacement grinder, I've had a Delta 23-680 for quite a while and it's been a workhorse the entire time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Randy, are you sure it's not something simple like a failed run capacitor?
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    doubt it, it was a cheesey grinder to begin with, I probably only paid $22.95 (35 years ago) I bought it, when I thought Craftsman meant something, but quickly discovered, with other Craftsman purchases, that they were no longer the quality I remember from the 50's, 60's when I was growing up

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    Re: Bench Grinders

    I have the Jet linked above. Big step up from my shit Craftsman 6", but it's not going to hang with a proper Baldor grinder. For the amount of grinding I do, I can't justify spending more than I did on the Jet. It does run dead smooth and quiet. So far I'm happy with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    now that I am working on my work bench, I want to get a new bench grinder, I have an old Crapsman suppose to be ½hp, but me don't think it is, it has no power at all, it's ok for rough sharpening cause it don't have the power to overheat the steel

    I wanna get something that I can grind on, otherwise why in fuck call it a grinder, What is the gold standard, Dayton ? or runner up silver standard, and what is the sh!t to stay away from.

    look for 3-phase grinders if you want something that will last forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePackage View Post
    look for 3-phase grinders if you want something that will last forever.
    I don't have 3 phase service, you wanna give me $2.5m to get it here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    I don't have 3 phase service, you wanna give me $2.5m to get it here ?
    If you get a VFD, (skip the 2.5 million power station project) and an old 3-phase grinder it will work for a very very long time:

    https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07D76365G

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurplePackage View Post
    If you get a VFD, (skip the 2.5 million power station project) and an old 3-phase grinder it will work for a very very long time:

    https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07D76365G
    didn't know they made such a thing, I only threw out the 2.5m number, cause that is the number a client paid, for similar distance 3 phase lines, but he needed a lot more than 10amps,

    I will probably go with the Dayton that I linked to above

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    didn't know they made such a thing, I only threw out the 2.5m number, cause that is the number a client paid, for similar distance 3 phase lines, but he needed a lot more than 10amps,

    I will probably go with the Dayton that I linked to above

    Just make sure you can actually disassemble it to clean it every few years. The motor magnets pull in the steel and iron dust. That's why the old stuff is great, you can totally refurbish an old grinder and put it back to working condition in an hour. The new stuff doesn't last by design.

    Some old men that know their shit:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_syZoL_BdrY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2pZBVxUTE

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    the Dayton grinder I was looking at at Graingers is on backorder, not expected for 6-8 weeks, now I'm looking at a Baileigh at Penn Tool

    https://www.penntoolco.com/baileigh-...ench-grinders/

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    the Dayton grinder I was looking at at Graingers is on backorder, not expected for 6-8 weeks, now I'm looking at a Baileigh at Penn Tool

    https://www.penntoolco.com/baileigh-...ench-grinders/
    If the Baileigh vertical bandsaw and horizontal bandsaw we have were I work is any indication, it's very good stuff. No, it's not at the level of a Do-All bandsaw or a HEM horizontal, but for the price point they're quite sturdy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SprintPoser View Post
    If the Baileigh vertical bandsaw and horizontal bandsaw we have were I work is any indication, it's very good stuff. No, it's not at the level of a Do-All bandsaw or a HEM horizontal, but for the price point they're quite sturdy.
    the price of the Baileigh is a little more, but it also has provision for dust collection, and a lamp

    I want to get a shop press as well, I may just go to Harbor Freight for that

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    Re: Bench Grinders

    This one interest you Randy ?
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    nope

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