I guess whatever floats your boatQuote:
Originally Posted by RandyO
...so what do you consider fun?
...i'm also assuming you've never done a trackday
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I guess whatever floats your boatQuote:
Originally Posted by RandyO
...so what do you consider fun?
...i'm also assuming you've never done a trackday
certainly not limiting myself to 20 minutes of riding per hour with a group of 20 or so yahoos on the same closed circuit over and overQuote:
Originally Posted by jc r6
I live close enuf to the track and have seen enuf to know that I don't want to waste my time preping my bike.
whats fun? riding when I want not not when someone tells me it's my turn, riding on a road with no traffic, and when in traffic, behaving the way I want, not the way an organizer tells me I must ride
I have done around twenty trackdays, and hope to do 6-10 more next year.
:doh: Wow! ???Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyO
I see it as releasing myself to do what I want with my bike in a "controlled" environment. I can push to my limit without pissing anyone off, I can try to improve my abilities with the help of others. I see it as an ADDITION to my street riding. Another outlet for my passion.
You should try it Randy. I'll even let you use my bike. :)
No worries though. I don't like sitting in the saddle straight up for hours on end and "cruising". Sport touring...? Sure but not crusing.
Truly to each there own.
I would like to do a day on a flat track
I did my first 2 TTDs this past Sept. I will be doing more next summer.
I did my first track day this year. Looking foward to more and possibly with a new bike!!
most fun you can have for 150 bucks...unless you happen to find yourself on 6th Street in Austin :groove:
Where are you buying $150 track days?Quote:
Originally Posted by TimmyB
theres a short track in Ontario through pro6cycle for 135$...really tight but really fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AswWACF4tgs
Flat track would be cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandyO
Don't feed the idiotic trolls, guys...
you somehow get the impression that I cruise for hours on end sitting straight in the saddleQuote:
Originally Posted by Doc
hardly, I like adventure touring, a good mix of gravel, off road and pavement in remote areas
controlled environment is the biggest reason riding around the same 12 turns just doesn't do it for me
if you wanna spend $250 a day to ride within someone elses parameters, I'm glad for you
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Originally Posted by ceo012384
what happened, the track day didn't make your penis grow ?
Did someone point out that there is another side of motorcycling, or deep down, track days are really boring to you too
do we have a popcorn avatar?
can we get one?
Seems Randy is in a bad mood. Maybe he would cheer up telling us how many miles he's ridden and the weather and road conditions he's ridden through?
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free popcorn won't get me to the track, can't eat the stuff, medical problems with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 97BladeRider
Randy's Randy any of yous guys who rode with Randy understand. Randy dont like rules, but I think he's never been in a band.
Randy i hear your point
Here's why i like the track:
Although i am only 31 i have riden on the street for over 15 years and have logged many miles. Partly due to only owning a bike (no cage) for a few years. the reason i like the track is i enjoy riding twisty roads and pushing my limits. I am not one to open up the bike in a straight line (thats what i consider boring) The problem with the style of riding i prefer is it's illegal. If i can't get on the track enough i drag knee on any twisty road i can ride (note my avatar). Getting to the track allows me to ride the way i want without worring about police, distracted drivers, guardrails, ect and it gets the urge to ride hard on public roads out of my system. I have lost multiple friends because of pushing their limits on public roads. You may consider it limiting while i consider it safer and more rewarding for the way i like to ride.
I'm not knocking on you ...just explaining why i like riding on the track
To each his own
it's only illegal if you get caughtQuote:
Originally Posted by jc r6
finding a public road that is desolate of police distracted dirvers, any traffic for that matter with safe runoffs is relatively easy to find, where I choose to ride fast I am alone or with maybe one or 2 other riders, not 20 testing their limits potentially taking me out if they exceed their limits
the track is not crash or injury free, we all have to asses out own risks and what we percieve to be riskier
the track focuses on the mechanical aspects of riding, what line to take, how much to hang off, when to brake etc. it does not prepare you for the hazards of the street, because as you say, they are not there
only on the street can you gain the experience you need to safely ride on the street
to an experienced street rider, the deer is not a surprise, nor is the gravel in the corner, you learn to anticipate where you will see these hazards, unless your a complete moron
Randy, I completely agree with your last post (aside from the whole getting taken out part... I know more people that have gotten taken out on the street by another rider than at a track day)... No one's saying any differently.... However I find your arrogant, condescending, higher-than-thou attitude to be a real turn-off.
Learning how to anticipate the unexpected is definitely an invaluable skill... but so are those mechanical aspects you speak of... There's no harm in learning those in an environment free of other hazards where you can really concentrate on honing those skills, accelerating the learning curve and really learning what you & your bike are capable of. I'm sure you'd be surprised by how many riders simply run off the road because they went into a hazard free corner too hot for their skill level & simply couldn't negotiate the turn.
Randy,
Don't knock it till you try it.
Rules exist for street riding and then there are *other* rules which exist for track riding.
+1000000.Quote:
Originally Posted by OreoGitorio
Exactly..Quote:
Originally Posted by bergs
On the track the "what if factor" that a street rider needs to keep constantly aware of is by no means absent but it is far less of a focal point. More of your attention can be devoted to the riding aspect and improving your skills (form, line choice, timing, ect.)
I myself dispise rules and being told when and how i can do something and that is presicely one of the reasons i like the track. Although there needs to be some rules there are far less rules on the track to limit my riding. No one is telling me how fast i can go for one...for 20 mins at a time i let loose.
The point is this... you can never ride as hard or as fast on the street as you can at the track. And if you CAN, you're just counting the miles until you have a very severe accident.
Also, most people think they ride hard on the street, then go for their first trackday and then realize they were nowhere even close to riding 'fast'.
Regardless, close-minded street tough guys may never find this out, which is their choice.