Cops, Proms, Checkpoints..

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Originally Posted by obsolete

How bout not wanting to sit in the traffic nightmare they cause drunk or not?

I have never understood why they do this crap, TooCrazy's example seems like a much better tactic. Just seems like they don't actually want to stop the problem.

We had them in Albuquerque every weekend. The bars would annouce over the PA system where they were.

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how many have you had to sit through?

I've been through that one in N. Andover probably 3-5 times over the past 3.5 years and it never took more than maybe 3 minutes to get through. Been through one out in Plainfield, CT once and it took maybe 1-2 minutes to get through.

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Originally Posted by Nikon

don't drive drunk and you have nothing to worry about

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Why didn't I think of that!? :drink:

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Originally Posted by CBR929RE

how many have you had to sit through?

I've been through that one in N. Andover probably 3-5 times over the past 3.5 years and it never took more than maybe 3 minutes to get through. Been through one out in Plainfield, CT once and it took maybe 1-2 minutes to get through.

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same here - i've never been held up more than 3-4 minutes from the time i saw the checkpoint till i was on my way past it.

i suppose waiting for the checkpoint might feel like an eternity if you're drunk and nervous. :dunno:

Never been through the ones out here but I've been in one for 10 minutes. Is it that out landish to want to avoid these even when sober?

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Originally Posted by obsolete

Never been through the ones out here but I've been in one for 10 minutes. Is it that out landish to want to avoid these even when sober?

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maybe they just do them better out here where if you try to take roads around it to avoid it you'd just be wasting more time than just sitting through it. but yeah if they are gonna take awhile I wouldn't really want to sit in it either.

That is certainly an issue with the ones out there, you can by-pass in probably the same amount of time. My point is if there is a choice between sitting in checkpoint traffic when I want to go home and go to bed or not, I will pick the latter.

i hit a checkpoint on 114 two years ago @ burtons grill in No. Andover. passed the field sobriety test, but blew a .09. i lived 1/4 mile from there so he told me to go home.

anyone's daughter need a date from prom?

:giggity:

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Originally Posted by obsolete

Never been through the ones out here but I've been in one for 10 minutes. Is it that out landish to want to avoid these even when sober?

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No - I hate being held up for any reason when trying to get somewhere but you sure seem to be putting a lot of effort into complaining about it when you've had to sit in 1 for 10 minutes. Next you'll be bitching about having to wait in line at the airport too. You pull up to the checkpoint answer their 2-3 questions, when they smell no alcohol, move on and be done with it then bitch later on about how they violated your right with improper detention techniques that cost you so much of your very important time. Relax and deal with it. How old are you? You've had to sit through 1 for 10 minutes? The chances that you even hit it on the way home are slim. You've spent more time bitching about it here than you have to sit through it. What has your life come to when you take this kind of effort to sit online and bitch about something that probably wont even effect you in any way. But maybe it will get a drunk off the road and maybe it will save someone elses life when that person they do take into custody doesn't kill someone else in an accident. Oh yeah - but your precious 10 minutes is more valuable than that right?

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Originally Posted by Nikon

No - I hate being held up for any reason when trying to get somewhere but you sure seem to be putting a lot of effort into complaining about it when you've had to sit in 1 for 10 minutes. Next you'll be bitching about having to wait in line at the airport too. You pull up to the checkpoint answer their 2-3 questions, when they smell no alcohol, move on and be done with it then bitch later on about how they violated your right with improper detention techniques that cost you so much of your very important time. Relax and deal with it. How old are you? You've had to sit through 1 for 10 minutes? The chances that you even hit it on the way home are slim. You've spent more time bitching about it here than you have to sit through it. What has your life come to when you take this kind of effort to sit online and bitch about something that probably wont even effect you in any way. But maybe it will get a drunk off the road and maybe it will save someone elses life when that person they do take into custody doesn't kill someone else in an accident. Oh yeah - but your precious 10 minutes is more valuable than that right?

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Wait so if I want to avoid a traffic causing police tactic that I disagree with and I discuss it on an online forum that is designed for people to talk about things on you take exeptation to that? Oh well cry about. It takes no effort for me to type ideas.

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Originally Posted by obsolete

Wait so if I want to avoid a traffic causing police tactic that I disagree with and I discuss it on an online forum that is designed for people to talk about things on you take acceptation to that? Oh well cry about. It takes no effort for me to type ideas.

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exception? :poke:

sorry, i have nothing useful to add so i'm going with a cheap shot. i know you'd do the same for me. :hug3:

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Originally Posted by Nikon

No - I hate being held up for any reason when trying to get somewhere but you sure seem to be putting a lot of effort into complaining about it when you've had to sit in 1 for 10 minutes. Next you'll be bitching about having to wait in line at the airport too. You pull up to the checkpoint answer their 2-3 questions, when they smell no alcohol, move on and be done with it then bitch later on about how they violated your right with improper detention techniques that cost you so much of your very important time. Relax and deal with it. How old are you? You've had to sit through 1 for 10 minutes? The chances that you even hit it on the way home are slim. You've spent more time bitching about it here than you have to sit through it. What has your life come to when you take this kind of effort to sit online and bitch about something that probably wont even effect you in any way. But maybe it will get a drunk off the road and maybe it will save someone elses life when that person they do take into custody doesn't kill someone else in an accident. Oh yeah - but your precious 10 minutes is more valuable than that right?

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Live Free or Die.

I think its time for you to move.

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Originally Posted by drop

exception? :poke:

sorry, i have nothing useful to add so i'm going with a cheap shot. i know you'd do the same for me. :hug3:

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You got that right Hi May. :wub:

Thank you.

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Originally Posted by obsolete

Wait so if I want to avoid a traffic causing police tactic that I disagree with and I discuss it on an online forum that is designed for people to talk about things on you take exeptation to that? Oh well cry about. It takes no effort for me to type ideas.

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You're bitching about a traffic nightmare and illegal tactics and such saying that it's all BS blah blah blah.... Sounds a lot like whining to me. Traffic nightmare? The only experience you say you have with these checkpoints is a 10 minute inconvenience in the past - I hardly call that a traffic nightmare. A stop at the I93 tolls takes more time than that usually.

Out of curiosity, how's a checkpoint illegal?

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Originally Posted by DBB

Live Free or Die.

I think its time for you to move.

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To where? Taxachusetts? I got outta that state as fast as I could. Fuck Mass.

I love NH but, sorry to say, I hate drunk drivers. It strikes a nerve seeing people bitch about trying to take drunks off the road when I've seen so many bad things come from it.

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Originally Posted by toocrazy2yoo

have a neat trick. They sit in unmarked cars in the shopping centers that also have bars and restaurants, especially the types that stay open until 3. They set up 50 yards out, with binoculars, they're waiting for someone to come out, drop their keys, stumble or weave on foot a little, act confused, take a little too long opening the car, that kinda shit. .

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sounda a lot like entrapment to me

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Originally Posted by Nikon

You've spent more time bitching about it here than you have to sit through it.

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time spent bitchin was a choice

being detained in a line of traffic for no probable cause wasn't


I just don't see sobriety checkpoints being an effective deterent

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Originally Posted by RandyO

sounda a lot like entrapment to me

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that's not even close to entrapment. In that situation the person would be drunk before the cop ever saw them. so how does the cop lure them into doing something illegal?

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Originally Posted by Nikon

To where? Taxachusetts? I got outta that state as fast as I could. Fuck Mass.

I love NH but, sorry to say, I hate drunk drivers. It strikes a nerve seeing people bitch about trying to take drunks off the road when I've seen so many bad things come from it.

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No one is bitching about taking drunk drivers off the road. The check point is the issue.

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Originally Posted by RandyO

sounda a lot like entrapment to me

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Well, there are probably more egregious examples. Hooker-cops soliciting guys and then busting them when they go for it, narcs that sell dope to someone on the street and then bust em for possession, deliberately corrupting politicians with scads of cash and then busting them, there are lots of examples of entrapment, all justified by the so-called greater good of getting criminals off the street. In this model, the binoculars in the parking lot, as a tactic, doesn't approach entrapment in the classic sense that would be recognized as such by a reasonable person. Entrapment to me is the cops literally creating and enabling the crime, enticing the suspect, then making the arrest. THAT'S entrapment. And, they do it all the time in all sorts of situations, and they get away with it. Greater good, don'tcha know?

You might not like the checkpoint thing, but under the notion that it's a privilege to be on the road and not a right, checkpoints are pretty tame stuff..

i'd start texting when i get to the checkpoint just to piss them off. :)

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Originally Posted by Nikon

You're bitching about a traffic nightmare and illegal tactics and such saying that it's all BS blah blah blah.... Sounds a lot like whining to me. Traffic nightmare? The only experience you say you have with these checkpoints is a 10 minute inconvenience in the past - I hardly call that a traffic nightmare. A stop at the I93 tolls takes more time than that usually.

Out of curiosity, how's a checkpoint illegal?

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Are you gonna keep crying and making terrible analogies about this or did you actually care to discuss it? Cause if that's the case I'm afraid it might fit your definition of whining.

I never called a checkpoint illegal, I said they were BS. I used illegal to refer to something else. Checkpoints have gone through the SCOTUS but I disagree with the judgment due why they Justices said they are ok.

You’re making a mountain out of a mole hill here. Would you cry this much if I wanted to avoid a construction zone?

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Originally Posted by obsolete

Would you cry this much if I wanted to avoid a construction zone?

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yes!

Checkpoints are no big deal.


(when you can flash your badge and keep going)



Tell me, do those little blue stripe stickers on cars actually work to keep from getting tickets?

We have a local PD who gives out "Pig-Pen Member" stickers to friends and family. That means no tickets.

Fun being on the inside, isn't it?

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Originally Posted by TheIglu

We have a local PD who gives out "Pig-Pen Member" stickers to friends and family. That means no tickets.

Fun being on the inside, isn't it?

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i heard you can get one of those with some donation?

where do i donate?

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Originally Posted by Kham

yes!

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I can't believe I'm saying this but.... *gulp* .....I agree with Kham...