Cunts are out for revenue collection.

[Degsy]

Wirelessly posted

I dont know if its him.

While deriding Marines is easy and fun, and he served in both, picture showed a 24th Division MP patch, AKA the Yankee Division, a National Guard unit.

Just looked it up,

Jasinskas received several awards during his 22-year military career. He served in the U.S. Marine Corps from 1991 until 2002, and in the Army National Guard from 2004 until his death, military records show. He served in Afghanistan from 2010 to 2012.

He received the Bronze Star for combat service overseas, the Defense Meritorious Service medal, the Afghanistan campaign medal with two campaign stars and the Iraq campaign medal with campaign star. He also received two National Defense Service medals, among several other military medals and decorations.

Read more: http://www.tauntongazette.com/news/x...#ixzz2bex7P3oQ

Always were curious what's up with the uniform choice of the Mass state police. Looks like some have the power envy.

Best car graphics, though....

And they are taking it to the water as well, fuckers!

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You have to work pretty hard to get any law enforcement action on a boat. In Boston Harbor there are EP, USCG, MSP, and Boston Harbor police and even on a summer weekend we usually don't see any of the above.

And they don't do sailboats, they usually won't even approach one.

We don't expect any boats but commercial craft to obey Right-Of-Way rules on a summer weekend.

News article said marine reserves.

[Chippertheripper]

We don't expect any boats but commercial craft to obey Right-Of-Way rules on a summer weekend.

You don't have the right of way in inland waters, especially not in areas of a channel. The responsibility lies on you to have the ability to yield the right of way as described in colregs. Many blow boaters don't realize this.

[Garandman]

You don't have the right of way in inland waters, especially not in areas of a channel. The responsibility lies on you to have the ability to yield the right of way as described in colregs. Many blow boaters don't realize this.

Thanks, Captain Ron.

Sailing in a harbor full of draggers, tankers, cargo ships, pilot boats, tugs, barges, ferries, taxis, charter boats (sail and power), Codzilla, sailboat races, the USS Constitution, community sailing programs, Duckboats, Superduckboats, Boston Harbor Police, Environmental Police, Mass State Police, US Navy, US Coast Guard, and an airport, I hardly ever get such helpful advice......

Oh, I forgot LNG tankers. Now they even close the Tobin Bridge when those come in.

[G21forme]

We got pulled on the Winni and for those of you who don't know it's VERY easy to have a Leo harras you on the Winni especially at night. Like I said I was a passenger so I followed the pilots lead and complied.

[Tricky Mike]

Thanks, Captain Ron.

Sailing in a harbor full of draggers, tankers, cargo ships, pilot boats, tugs, barges, ferries, taxis, charter boats (sail and power), Codzilla, sailboat races, the USS Constitution, community sailing programs, Duckboats, Superduckboats, Boston Harbor Police, Environmental Police, Mass State Police, US Navy, US Coast Guard, and an airport, I hardly ever get such helpful advice......

Oh, I forgot LNG tankers. Now they even close the Tobin Bridge when those come in.

You forgot douchecanoes!

[Chippertheripper]

Thanks, Captain Ron.

Sailing in a harbor full of draggers, tankers, cargo ships, pilot boats, tugs, barges, ferries, taxis, charter boats (sail and power), Codzilla, sailboat races, the USS Constitution, community sailing programs, Duckboats, Superduckboats, Boston Harbor Police, Environmental Police, Mass State Police, US Navy, US Coast Guard, and an airport, I hardly ever get such helpful advice......

Oh, I forgot LNG tankers. Now they even close the Tobin Bridge when those come in.

So you agree that you don't have any right of way?
Unless, of course, you do have the right of way. Which should have nothing to do with the fact that you may or may not have sails up or down.

[Garandman]

http://m.wcvb.com/news/massachusetts...z/-/index.html
H
middleboro barracks? Operated rt 24? Complete asshole? Typical marine holier than thou attitude?
This could be my guy? Sweet! Might not even have to appear before the judge.

Degsy, I want to make a distinction here.

Many of us believe enforcement policies are not reasonable - plenty of LEO as well. But there is a big difference between that opinion and in any way celebrating the death of a veteran and law enforcement officer.

He may not have been the most noble human on the planet, but a lot of these guys have suffered from these deployments in ways that are not visible. It's a tragedy. He fought on our behalf, and risked his life in the line of duty for not a lot of money. He deserves that respect. I'm sure there is a sad story behind this.

[Garandman]

So you agree that you don't have any right of way?
Unless, of course, you do have the right of way. Which should have nothing to do with the fact that you may or may not have sails up or down.

Right of way under what circumstances?

There are many circumstances in which we would be the burdened vessel in Boston Harbor, despite being under sail alone. There are all kinds of safety and security zones in addition to the restrictions due to draft or their ability to manuever. Not to mention the most important rule: Tonnage.

My personal opinion is that if you have to sound signals or make sudden changes of course, you aren't paying attention. I try to make my intentions clear well in advance so that the other vessel need do nothing.

I don't find small boat sailors to be a problem for anyone very often. The #1 trouble makers (and the ones than most law enforcement is focused on) are the occasional users of small powerboats. But sailboats under power with sails up are #2 on my list o' hate.

[Degsy]

Wirelessly posted

http://m.wcvb.com/news/massachusetts...z/-/index.html
H
middleboro barracks? Operated rt 24? Complete asshole? Typical marine holier than thou attitude?
This could be my guy? Sweet! Might not even have to appear before the judge.

Degsy, I want to make a distinction here.

Many of us believe enforcement policies are not reasonable - plenty of LEO as well. But there is a big difference between that opinion and in any way celebrating the death of a veteran and law enforcement officer.

He may not have been the most noble human on the planet, but a lot of these guys have suffered from these deployments in ways that are not visible. It's a tragedy. He fought on our behalf, and risked his life in the line of duty for not a lot of money. He deserves that respect. I'm sure there is a sad story behind this.

Not celebrating a death. Just saying if he is dead anyway, i hope its my guy.

[me109g4]

I was down by the coast guard station in Boston last weekend, happened to see them have a boater stopped by the station with another police boat being backup,, an older guy with what looked a female teenager present. Looked to be a cabin cruiser with just the two on board, CG had them there for as long as I watched,20 mins plus. No clue what heinous crime they commited to be held that long, I dint see any issues with the boat so he made a bad move or they were fishing for revenue.

[G21forme]

We got escorted to the docks as well, supposedly we were under the 150' distance requirement by 10' according to their radar (i don't know shit about boats or the rules mind you).

[Chippertheripper]

Right of way under what circumstances?

There are many circumstances in which we would be the burdened vessel in Boston Harbor, despite being under sail alone. There are all kinds of safety and security zones in addition to the restrictions due to draft or their ability to manuever. Not to mention the most important rule: Tonnage.

My personal opinion is that if you have to sound signals or make sudden changes of course, you aren't paying attention. I try to make my intentions clear well in advance so that the other vessel need do nothing.

I don't find small boat sailors to be a problem for anyone very often. The #1 trouble makers (and the ones than most law enforcement is focused on) are the occasional users of small powerboats. But sailboats under power with sails up are #2 on my list o' hate.

The circumstances I was actually referring to we're when you actually had the right of way. Like if someone was approaching on your port side or overtaking.

The fact is: in inland waters specifically EVERYONE is burdened. Being under sail doesn't give you any specific privileges when everyone has the same problem. In fact, it makes you more responsible for any liabilities. Why? Because in an area where everybody is burdened, and you choose to be under sail alone, you inhibit your ability to avoid a collision AT ALL COSTS by reducing your maneuverability. And you should know that being able to avoid a collision is priority number one.

[Imbeek]

You forgot douchecanoes!

And kooks on SUPs!

[Garandman]

The circumstances I was actually referring to we're when you actually had the right of way. Like if someone was approaching on your port side or overtaking.

The fact is: in inland waters specifically EVERYONE is burdened. Being under sail doesn't give you any specific privileges when everyone has the same problem. In fact, it makes you more responsible for any liabilities. Why? Because in an area where everybody is burdened, and you choose to be under sail alone, you inhibit your ability to avoid a collision AT ALL COSTS by reducing your maneuverability. And you should know that being able to avoid a collision is priority number one.

The only boat I've ever hit was another sailboat.

But you're kind of grumpy, I'll provide a witty retort when the good-natured Chipper is back. BTW yesterday I rode to North Truro and avoided all ROW violations. Not the fairest, but not bad out there.

Burdenend vessel: "vessel required to yield to a vessel having the right of way."

"A give-way vessel is a vessel directed to take, so far as possible: early and substantial action to keep well clear of another vessel. Note that the give-way vessel is never relieved of her duty to keep well clear - even if the other vessel takes emergency action to avoid collision."

"A stand-on vessel must act in a certain way, so that other vessels can predict her actions so that collision will still be avoided even if the give-way vessel does not do as she should. A stand-on vessel shall maintain her course and speed and take best action to avoid collision - as soon as it is clear that the action of the give-way vessel alone will not prevent collision. The stand-on vessel may take action to avoid collision - as soon as it is clear that the give-way vessel is not doing as she should, but if a power-driven vessel “crossing” and circumstances allow shall not alter to port for a vessel on her port side."

[Degsy]

Wirelessly posted

Shiver me timbers.

[Garandman]

Here's the kind of thing Chipper is referring to: a vessel under sail (possibly commercial) hit by a vessel engaged in fishing. Fail.

[JohnnyV]

Here's the kind of thing Chipper is referring to: a vessel under sail (possibly commercial) hit by a vessel engaged in fishing. Fail.

Wow..... while the sailboat clearly had the right of way, they knew well in advance they were on a collision course and saw no intention by the fishing vessel to change direction to avoid contact. The captain of the sailing vessel acted irresponsibly in my opinion by allowing that to happen with that many people on board.

[Imbeek]

Another blatant example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVL4wKnpx2U

[Chippertheripper]

I'm really not grumpy at all. I'm really just saying: under no circumstances do you have the right of way in INLAND waters, specifically the Boston harbor you were referring to, because you have sails up. See my last post as to why.

That collision could've been avoided easily by a small degree turn by the fishing boat...but both captains failed, because rule #1 is always: avoid collision by any and all means.

[Garandman]

I'm really not grumpy at all. I'm really just saying: under no circumstances do you have the right of way in INLAND waters, specifically the Boston harbor you were referring to, because you have sails up. See my last post as to why.

That collision could've been avoided easily by a small degree turn by the fishing boat...but both captains failed, because rule #1 is always: avoid collision by any and all means.

Rule 18 - Responsibilities Between Vessels

Except where Rules 9, 10, and 13 otherwise require:

(a) A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

(i) a vessel not under command;
(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
(iii) a vessel engaged in fishing;
(iv) a sailing vessel.

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

(i) a vessel not under command;
(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
(iii) a vessel engaged in fishing.

(c) A vessel engaged in fishing when underway shall, so far as possible, keep out of the way of:

(i) a vessel not under command;
(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver.

[(d) (i) Any vessel other than a vessel not under command or a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid impeding the safe passage of a vessel constrained by her draft, exhibiting the signals in Rule 28.]

[(ii) A vessel constrained by her draft shall navigate with particular caution having full regard to her special condition

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[AEG]

Now I go out on a limb and say that this is not a General Bike Related post anymore.

[Chippertheripper]

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Both failed. The sailboat is most at fault, I agree.

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Now I go out on a limb and say that this is not a General Bike Related post anymore.

It's for somebody's amusement. And it never was. Derek got pulled over in his car.

[Garandman]

Both failed. The sailboat is most at fault, I agree.r.

It's not clear to me the fishing boat is engaged in fishing.

I think it was on autopilot with no one on the bridge (that never happens on a fishing boat right?) because the vessel makes no course correction even after five horns. Then at the last minute you see a big black smoke cloud and the boat slows down, so it looks like someone got her into reverse at the last minute.

My experience with different classes of boats is that the charter sail captains seem to think they have the ROW over everything, all the time. Not my favorite guys, luckily they are usually moving really slowly. Fishing boats are all over the map, some make it easy for everyone and others make a beeline for the dock, hell or high water. The cat ferries are really fast - they say they go 25 knots but I've been behind one with 32 knots on the GPS as he pulls away - but are total pros and manage to steer clear of everyone. The various "party boats" aren't in a rush and usually on the harbor Nav channel so if you aren't sure what they're up to, they will tell you.

There are pretty much always land sights in Boston harbor so it's usually not that hard to anticipate what another boat. The excitement usually happens when you have a tug, three private powerboats, and a ferry all entering the harbor with three 40' sailboats and a harbor taxi outbound.

BTW there is a local dispute about where exactly the no wake zone starts in the inner harbor. The MSP maintain it starts at the hotel.

[Chippertheripper]

I hadda go watch it again...it's unclear whether he has lines down or not...if he did, he came so close to doing the right thing. (Nothing, as the right of way is his, until the last possible moment to avoid a collision, that's where the almost comes from)

Fishing boats with nobody in the wheelhouse?! Surely you can't be serious.
I've never installed remote radar displays in the shucking boxes so the captains can do 14657753 things at once...

[BMMCBR]

Did either of you actually read the article?

On the 20th August 2010 the Andrea had finished fishing and was returning to port in the Netherlands. The skipper and rest of the crew were below leaving Jan Baarssen alone on the bridge in sole charge of the vessel. The Andrea is a 36.5 metre beam trawler registered in the UK but is based in the Netherlands

No, they weren't fishing, and yes there was 1 person on the bridge (allegedly).


Anyway, back on topic.

I was pulled over a few years ago. I was doing 80 in a 55 (as was every other vehicle around me). And I was the one who got popped. He wrote the ticket for 70, which was nice of him, but he wrote "actual 80" on the top of his copy, which when I went to fight it, the prosecutor had. The prosecutor basically said "I have no sympathy for you. I'll reduce it to $100."

I took the deal, but that shit is still fucking my insurance rates.