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Originally posted by Paul_E_D
dragging the rear brake while on the throttle will slow you without weighting the front so much and allow you to tighten your line. it's a good technique IMO. It just needs to be done with a light touch. if there's any sand or such, it gets dicey.
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Jay; lean over the front axle, push that front down through 9.
Well you and Eric Wood apparently have a difference of opinion :DQuote:
Originally posted by Paul_E_D
I beg to differ! It's one place where you can gain a huge advantage over your competitors.
Besides, you are on a hyper weedwacker.... If I recall, the One Two Five jockies are in a full tuck between 9 and 10 :lol:
Don't get me wrong, I find 9 into 10 a great spot to run up someones rear tires. Find it happening all the time. However, I'm not 'rolling on the throttle and powering out' of turn 9 like I am out of 2 or 12. Maybe I will at some point on the way to Teenland.
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Originally posted by a13x
Heh. I on the other hand have always gone well / liked T9. Nine is also one of the few turns at Loudon that you don't have to worry about getting a good drive out of, since you flow directly into 10.
I'm not sure anyone really gets a "drive" out of Turn 9.
It's important to be in the right place in 9 to set up the turn 10 drive ... but you are really getting your drive out of 10.
You have about half of a second from the time you flip back to the right (at the the bottom of 9) until you hit the transition in 10.
You can't really drive too much in that space and you can't be crazy on the gas until after the transition bump.
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Sho'nuff.
Hey Tony you going to the races next weekend? I'll be there, lets catch up about 'certain topics'.
Nope.
I only went last time cuz it was day before track day and I was up there anyway.
Email me direct and we'll figure something out.
tony@tonystrackdays.com
That's fine, Eric rides a GSX-R1000. But the rest of the lightweight guys might need a different technique. I can only tell you what has helped me. I'm definitely no Eric Wood, though. carry on.
I think we are debating the minute here and we are all thinking the same thing but very slight variance. You know Paul that I have the utmost respect for your race-craft. The last thing I was trying to imply is that you don't know what you are talking about (cause that's false)
My initial comment noted "don't have to worry about getting a good drive". I never said coast thru the turn like you are dead. I err lets say 'overheard' Eric talking about each and every turn at Loudon for a upcoming Penguin teaching tool. I heard him make that comment about 9 and I said 'wow, I never thought of it that way' but when I applied it to what I was doing, it seemed to make sense.
If you goof up, lets say you are a gear to high, coming out of 2, 3, 6, 10, 12, your lap is screwed. Nine on the other hand is downhill and leads into a slower corner almost immediately. So if you goof up your 'drive' out of 9, it isn't going to blow your lap like the other examples. I think we can all agree on that right?
So while Eric may ride a GSXR1000 on the AMA circuit, and Tony won a 250cc Championship, and I'm on a 700cc twin, it seems like we are all pretty much saying the same thing. Including you, the current 125cc Point Leader :D .edit: and the current Novice Production Twins Points Leader.....
Rereading your intial post about 9, I definately know what you are referring to when you talk about the 'almost highside'. I didn't start feeling that until I started doing low 21's and 20's. It's a awesome feeling in a slightly frightening way. :redface: Personally those are my favourite parts of the track, the liquid smooth lightening fast transitions from one side to the other
well put, Alex... i think you nailed that one outta the park. Isn't it great when everyone is right? :D
Oh good. I felt like a jackass typing it up actually.
PS: I edited the above post to reflect your imput.
No sweat. I wasn't looking for anyone to tell me I was right. Eric knows more about Loudon than I'll ever know, so I'm sure he has a point, but I wasn't there to hear it. I can't speak to that.
You're last post makes sense to me. A lot of riders just coast down nine, though. I kinda thought that's what you were saying. I just misunderstood.
I probably wasn't clear either. It's not much throttle required to get things cooking in nine, but it's a big difference from trailing throttle.
Word. God Bless the Internet? =]