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link to special is here: https://www.harley-davidson.com/us/e...0-special.html
There's rumor of a "sport" line. Supposed release date is about the same time they plan on unveiling the new electric(s) under the newly developed stand-alone Livewire brand.
Although given their idea of "sport", I can't imagine it being much more than something along the lines of their Fat Bob but with the new Revolution 1250 motor instead of the typical 114CI. Their Street line was obviously a flop, so I can't imagine them trying anything along those lines again.
Did you grit your teeth and try to look like Clint Fuckin' Eastwood?
Or did you lisp it all hangfisted like a fuckin' flower?
Did you grit your teeth and try to look like Clint Fuckin' Eastwood?
Or did you lisp it all hangfisted like a fuckin' flower?
Scrambler-mount exhaust with forward controls? Even if the motor/brakes are great, I'm getting strong "identity crisis" vibes.
-Jared
ZX-4RR, R1200GSW, 701 E/SM, Hyperstrada 821 (FS!)
I like this bike, I’m just not sure I would buy it based on the other offerings in the segment. Other than squatting to pee, what does this bike do better than the others?
I went to MMI I know what Im doing here chief
My local HD dealer already has one in for it's 1000 mile service.
Did you grit your teeth and try to look like Clint Fuckin' Eastwood?
Or did you lisp it all hangfisted like a fuckin' flower?
Cool. Those are both reasonable points.
I went to MMI I know what Im doing here chief
Do you outsource checks? Most of the japanese bikes I've owned have almost never needed adjustment. On my V-Strom I started checking every-other interval because they were always fine.
I will say the gas, tires, n' oil factor on my Road King is lovely. Bike is just about always ready to just go. Although that is belt drive too.
Yes, I actually meant checks/adjustments. My Tiger was in spec at ~20k miles but had 4 exhaust valves out of spec at 40k. I'm about to hit 60k so I'm curious to see where they'll be at. I might do every other interval if it seems they stay in place, but at this rate that will likely be after I click over 100k.
It seems as I get older I want to spend less of my free time wrenching and more time riding. I get irritated as it is every 10k miles when I replace the air filter myself as I have to remove all side paneling, drain tank, remove tank, etc. My Japanese bikes are much simpler to maintain comparatively, but don't see the mileage my Tiger does.
While getting a tire installed on my Mutli last week at a HD dealer in MI, the service manager offered a test ride on the Pan American. I liked it more than I expected. It's very close to the Duck in performance, features, etc. The HD dealer network is a big plus if you use your bike for long trips.
The PanAm is a little smaller & lower than the Duc. It felt a bit cramped in comparison. But the seat height is adjustable so that might fix that problem. Motor has similar power and is very smooth. Shifting is smooth too. They sent me on a 55 mile loop with a good combination of twisty back roads and blue highway and it was a fun ride. They didn't have luggage for it (they said there's a shortage of the bags) so I don't know how they compare.
I had called 2 Duc dealers & explained I'd been on the road for a month+ and needed a fresh tire - one said it would be at least a week & the other said Sept. The HD dealer, Bald Eagle HD in Marquette, said they'd put it on as soon as the tire arrived which took 2 days. I was really impressed with Bald Eagle and would definitely consider the Pan Am if I lived in that area.
DanG
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- Blaise Pascal
There was talk of my local dealer (Rochester, NH - or one of their sister dealerships) getting one in for a 13,000 mile check-up already. Yeah, you read that correctly, 13,000 miles already. He wanted it gone through before he RODE to Sturgis & back. Or some shit...
Did you grit your teeth and try to look like Clint Fuckin' Eastwood?
Or did you lisp it all hangfisted like a fuckin' flower?
While that's a lot of miles to put on in only a few months, it's honestly not that surprising for the IBR types. I've heard of some doing 100k miles in a single year.
If I were retired, divorced and didn't have a kid, I'd probably try it myself.
2023 KTM 890 Adventure R
Is 13k the recommended service interval? The mutli is 7,500 for oil and 15k for valves etc.
DanG
People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive.
- Blaise Pascal
Did you grit your teeth and try to look like Clint Fuckin' Eastwood?
Or did you lisp it all hangfisted like a fuckin' flower?
The Pan Am has 5k mile oil change intervals. There is no interval for valves as they are hydraulically adjusted. If I were in the market, that would be a major selling point for me. The Multi V4 is now up to 36k mile valve intervals so hopefully this will be the trend going forward; high HP bikes capable of piling on miles with little maintenance.
While the Super Adventure has 18k mile valve check intervals, I didn't actually have to adjust them until 36k miles. I did them myself and they were not that far out. I've heard that about most Super Adventures as well, assuming the airbox was fixed.
2023 KTM 890 Adventure R
But you still had to check them at/around 18k. And you had to then check & adjust them at 36k. Doing it yourself is one thing, but when outsourcing that task - which I'd argue the majority do - it makes financial sense to choose a machine that eliminates/reduces that cost, especially if riding a considerable amount of miles. Given the mileage I've put on my Tiger, that is a big consideration on my next mile-muncher.
I understand that sentiment. I wish all the big brands would move over to hydraulic valves, to be honest I'm not really sure why they haven't if the Pan Am is able to make nearly as much power and weighs pretty much the same.
Of course the other argument for the Pan Am is a dealership on damn near every street corner.
2023 KTM 890 Adventure R
I've done a few 3-5k mile trips, but this was my first time out for more than a month and about 8,500 miles. Being able to easily get an oil change, new tire(s), and other maintenance is an important part of the decision for my next bike. So is not needing the maintenance as often. The Duc specs 7,500 for oil changes but that's pushing it imo. Not having many dealers is one strike against Ducati. Dealers that don't give priority to long-distance travellers is another. With BMW, I could probably use the MOA book to find someone who'd let me change oil at their place, but I don't know of an option like that for Ducs.
DanG
People almost invariably arrive at their beliefs not on the basis of proof but on the basis of what they find attractive.
- Blaise Pascal