Myrtle Beach says no more Bike Weeks

[chrisc]

May be a repost...

http://www.myrtlebeachbikerinfo.com/message.html

Dear Visitors,

Myrtle Beach is no longer the location for two long-running motorcycle events. After many years, our residents grew weary of three weeks of noise and traffic congestion each May, and they asked City Council to end the events. As a result, the Harley-Davidson Dealers Association Spring Rally and the Atlantic Beach Memorial Day Bikefest will not be held in Myrtle Beach.

This was a difficult decision. Myrtle Beach welcomes visitors year-round, but the giant motorcycle rallies simply grew too large. Our staff, residents and businesses strained to keep up with these huge single-focus events. It may surprise you, but our economy is much healthier with a fully diversified visitor base, instead of a concentration on one or two extremely large events.

Please know that Myrtle Beach is not anti-biker or anti-motorcycle. We want folks to come on the vehicle of their choice and enjoy all of the things Myrtle Beach has to offer. We are ending the motorcycle-related rallies because they grew too big and lasted too long. The huge rallies even kept visitors away from Myrtle Beach, and that's not good.

For everyone's safety and welfare, City Council has added a few new rules and regulations. We believe these new laws will make Myrtle Beach a safer and more friendly destination. For example, with your safety in mind, we now require that all motorcycle riders and passengers wear a helmet and eye protection. We also have a 1:00 to 6:00 a.m. curfew for everyone under 18. These and other rule changes are explained on this web site.

Thank you for understanding. As you know, Myrtle Beach is a great place to visit, and we welcome you at any time. I look forward to your next visit and am confident that you will have a great time in Myrtle Beach!

Sincerely,

John Rhodes
Mayor

[Pittenger5]

Next week they'll have an article about how in these tough economic times the city is broke and blah blah blah

[ChrisNoF4i]

I'm still going. They can't hold me back.

[noxin]

I always find it peculiar when a City/Town requires something that the state doesn't. In this case, a helmet.

According to their website, they welcome visitors on motorcycles to their city, but, wait, you need to put a helmet on at the city border. Seriously? That's stupid.

If the state of south carolina only requires it for under 21 operators, how can the city require it for everyone?

[RandyO]

I always find it peculiar when a City/Town requires something that the state doesn't. In this case, a helmet.

According to their website, they welcome visitors on motorcycles to their city, but, wait, you need to put a helmet on at the city border. Seriously? That's stupid.

If the state of south carolina only requires it for under 21 operators, how can the city require it for everyone?

I think that conviction of this requirement would be overturned on appeal

per the South Carolina constitution

SECTION 10. No law or exemption for a specific municipality to be enacted.

No laws for a specific municipality shall be enacted, and no municipality shall be exempted from the laws applicable to municipalities or applicable to a particular form of government selected by any municipality as authorized by Section 9 of this article.

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/scconstitution/a08.htm

[Awesome]

it's not a law, it's a 'rule and regulation' aka statute.

Perfectly legal to be enacted by a city the same way it's legal for cities or counties to ban talking on cell phones if they so choose.

[BCT748]

So what are they going to do when a million bikers show up anyway?

[madkaw]

Fuck that place. I wouldn't piss on any piece of real estate in that town. Daytona and Sturgis here I come!!!

[RandyO]

it's not a law, it's a 'rule and regulation' aka statute.

Perfectly legal to be enacted by a city the same way it's legal for cities or counties to ban talking on cell phones if they so choose.

from the Mayors statement

For everyone's safety and welfare, City Council has added a few new rules and regulations. We believe these new laws will make Myrtle Beach a safer and more friendly destination

[odieoh24]

that's too bad. these were a few of the events the ole lady and i would have liked to attend. pretty soon there wont be any places holding events. after the fiasco at americade last year, we wont ever be attending that event again. i thought it was pretty lame they were pulling all bikes only into the rest area to check for minor violations. we waited almost 45 minutes. i went there to ride, not sit at the rest area wondering if everything was legal on the bike. laconia also had sobriety checkpoints setup for the first time i've seen since i've been going there. no to mention cops placed at every point around the loop where you might accidently spin the tire or get it off the ground. my friend even got fined for asking some chick to show her tits. she did and was fined as well. whats this world coming to anyway.

ride safe
odieoh24

[Awesome]

from the Mayors statement

For everyone's safety and welfare, City Council has added a few new rules and regulations. We believe these new laws will make Myrtle Beach a safer and more friendly destination

An ordinance is a law enacted by a municipal body, such as a city council or county commission (sometimes called county council or county board of supervisors). Ordinances govern matters not already covered by state or federal laws such as zoning, safety and building regulations.

[Awesome]

So I was wrong in saying they weren't laws, and you were wrong in saying they weren't legal. Not only is a city ordinance allowed, it is required by state law.


pursuant to the 1976 South Carolina Code of
Laws, §5-7-290, as amended, which required every municipality in this state to provide by ordinance for the codification and indexing of its ordinances and the maintenance of those ordinances in a current form

[obsolete]

Daytona in '05 was lame. Tickets if you rev'd your bike in traffic or if you showed some boobage.

People are dumb. It's like the residents of Salem that complain about Halloween. It's one night and brings in tons of revenue.

[RandyO]

So I was wrong in saying they weren't laws, and you were wrong in saying they weren't legal. Not only is a city ordinance allowed, it is required by state law.


pursuant to the 1976 South Carolina Code of
Laws, §5-7-290, as amended, which required every municipality in this state to provide by ordinance for the codification and indexing of its ordinances and the maintenance of those ordinances in a current form

aside from the SC Constitution that is contrary also to this section of their constitution


SECTION 14. General law provisions not to be set aside.

In enacting provisions required or authorized by this article, general law provisions applicable to the following matters shall not be set aside:

(1) The freedoms guaranteed every person; (2) election and suffrage qualifications; (3) bonded indebtedness of governmental units; (4) the structure for and the administration of the State's judicial system; (5) criminal laws and the penalties and sanctions for the transgression thereof; and (6) the structure and the administration of any governmental service or function, responsibility for which rests with the State government or which requires statewide uniformity.

like I said, appeal a conviction and it will probably be overturned based on their constitution just like any state in the US that passed a state law that doesn't meet US constitutional muster

[eboos]

So what are they going to do when a million bikers show up anyway?

My guess is they will go out of their way to make them feel unwelcome.

[a13x]

Daytona sucks. Laconia Bike Week is way better.

The big three are Sturgis, Laconia, and Daytona.

[R7]

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot in bad economic times. It's safe to say that mayer john rhodes is a dumb dumb

[Just_Jeff]

I have family there, and talked with them about it, This is just thier opinion but it is shared but many local folks there. Not from racist people at all just stating what happens and what group of bikers do it

"This was just announced officially this week in MB. When these rally's were held here --10 days for Harley and 5 days for Atlantic Beach plus extra vacation days they took added to more days here. The Harley guys were for the most part very respectful and proper. Now the AB bikers were something else--deliberately tying up traffic all across the highways and streets,the girls were half naked and some all exposed ,street parties til wee hours of the morning,mass vandalism done in hotel rooms and outside property,racing engines all night,going into restaurants running up big bills and leaving without paying. The City could not just eliminate the AB Rally (black bikers)without also doing Harley due to discrimination lawsuits by NAACP, These new laws apply only to Myrtle Beach and maybe AB Rally will only be held up there or in North different rules there but if they ride here it will be our laws enforced. North means North MB. Most events and sponsor events and booths were about 90% here in MB. It's too bad that a certain group spoils it for the rest of the good guys"

[Awesome]

aside from the SC Constitution that is contrary also to this section of their constitution


SECTION 14. General law provisions not to be set aside.

In enacting provisions required or authorized by this article, general law provisions applicable to the following matters shall not be set aside:

(1) The freedoms guaranteed every person; (2) election and suffrage qualifications; (3) bonded indebtedness of governmental units; (4) the structure for and the administration of the State's judicial system; (5) criminal laws and the penalties and sanctions for the transgression thereof; and (6) the structure and the administration of any governmental service or function, responsibility for which rests with the State government or which requires statewide uniformity.

like I said, appeal a conviction and it will probably be overturned based on their constitution just like any state in the US that passed a state law that doesn't meet US constitutional muster

Wouldn't an amendment supercede the original constitution?

If what you're saying is true then any city ordinance that the constitution requires them to have is unconstitutional?

[RandyO]

Wouldn't an amendment supercede the original constitution?

If what you're saying is true then any city ordinance that the constitution requires them to have is unconstitutional?

what amendment ? what you quoted wasn't part of the constitution that I could see, laws are passed all the time that are unconstitutional and are subsequently overturned when someone appeals them in court, in the meantime, a lot of people get convicted on unconstitutional laws and pay the fine or serve the time either not knowing they can appeal cause they have an inept lawyer or can't afford one (your only entitled to one when its a misdemeanor or felony and not for a civil infraction)

[Awesome]

what amendment ? what you quoted wasn't part of the constitution that I could see, laws are passed all the time that are unconstitutional and are subsequently overturned when someone appeals them in court, in the meantime, a lot of people get convicted on unconstitutional laws and pay the fine or serve the time either not knowing they can appeal cause they have an inept lawyer or can't afford one (your only entitled to one when its a misdemeanor or felony and not for a civil infraction)

Title 5 - Municipal Corporations CHAPTER 7 contains the related amendments.

What you're saying is, flat out, no one has to obey any city ordinance anywhere in S.C., if you can afford a lawyer? Just to be clear. Let me know how that works out for you.

[Awesome]

BTW, re reading the original cited, what is being said is that the state may not adopt laws or nullify laws only for specific municipalities.

[legalspeed]

I feel most towns are trying to do away with bike weeks. My in laws live in Edgewater FL, right below Daytona. They read the papers (retired, nothing else to do) and they tell me that Daytona is trying to get rid of Biketober fest;
first they cut the roc to a normal race weekend (used to be tue-sun, now it's just fri-sun); inacted a sound ordinance, and restricted vendors to only being able to set up Fri night and must be gone by Sun night. As was alluded to in the papers, all in an effort to get rid of bike week in October.

We stopped going, and now go down with Penguin at Thanksgiving to Homestead and Jennings.

Loudon has skewed the bike week by moving it and are makiing it generally difficult as some have stated. LRRS has reduced it's bikeweek activites to a normal 3 day weekend as well.

I don't believe that Myrtle Beach or Daytona is going to feel any economic crunch, people wil still flock to these destinations. Laconia and Loudon, however, will probably need the economic boost that the bikers bring, but will not fully realize this until what they had is gone.

As a bike rider, I am disapointed that the adult theme is being abolished, there seem to be enough family oriented activities already.

[RandyO]

Title 5 - Municipal Corporations CHAPTER 7 contains the related amendments.

What you're saying is, flat out, no one has to obey any city ordinance anywhere in S.C., if you can afford a lawyer? Just to be clear. Let me know how that works out for you.

uh? that's not the constitution of south carolina

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/scconstitution/scconst.htm

[Awesome]

uh? that's not the constitution of south carolina

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/scconstitution/scconst.htm

uh, that's doesn't change the point.