passenger fury!

OK OK OK... time for me to settle this!!!!!

It was a one lane road... The white line was 3 inches from the curb... no break down lane.

I was on the left hand side of the lane... about 2-3 feet from the double yellow...

This is in a small town, Not on Rt4 or Rt1. This is acctually the start of Rt 1A.

So yea, the guy REALLY didnt have the room... and me laying on the horn yelling, and he didnt even look at me... either he forgot his hearing aid that morning, or he was a pompous obliviant a$$hat.

If there is not enough room for 2 cars, why just cause i'm a bike, should he try? It's called common courtesy.

And my grandfather is 82, and he sucks at driving!!! and my grams always reminds him. Curbs are his friends, and so are lightposts and bushes! He's had 4 accidents in the past 3 months.
Sometimes, if you have been doing something for so long (like driving) I think its my theory that you get too comfortable in your "skills" and begin to forget that you are driving a 2 ton missle, as someone mentioned.

EITHER WAY, old guy or not... He wasn't courteous enough to wait and let me go when there was room, He was pompous by ignoring me, and He therefore by process of deductive reasoning... is an a$$hat.

My final answer.

And by the way, you can NOT pass on the right... it's illegal. weather you have room or not, lane splitting, etc... In RI, passing on right is illegal as well as lane splitting.

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Originally Posted by Bandit12k

If there is not enough room for 2 cars, why just cause i'm a bike, should he try? It's called common courtesy.

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How many times have you skirted around a car to make a right hand turn on your bike where you never would have had room in a car? Pleeeeeease.

i wasn't pompous about it... and i had plenty of room, and you have to agree, it's much more intimidating for a car to be swerving around a bike, than a bike swerving around a car. On a bike, we have spacial awareness... we can see that our front tire is no where near them... AND you think gramps with his Foggle Goggle spectacles can see where his bumper ends? To the point that he had to creep past me... Not like he was flying past me, but for there to not be enough room that he has to go slow to creep around me??? Means he's unsure of his clearances. :deathslap:


Either way, my gf flippin on him was awesome. She's very protective of her bike.:naughty

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Originally Posted by jnm988

How many times have you skirted around a car to make a right hand turn on your bike where you never would have had room in a car? Pleeeeeease.

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Honestly, do you even own / ride a motorcycle?

What this car did is NOT COOL and I've lived in Cali for the last year where sharing lanes is LEGAL.

Cars forcing space with a bike puts the motorcyclist's life at risk, PERIOD. Don't try (anyone try) to justify the action by flipping it around. It's not the same.

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Originally Posted by a13x

Honestly, do you even own / ride a motorcycle?

What this car did is NOT COOL and I've lived in Cali for the last year where sharing lanes is LEGAL.

Cars forcing space with a bike puts the motorcyclist's life at risk, PERIOD. Don't try (anyone try) to justify the action by flipping it around. It's not the same.

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Would I have been happy? No. Would I have given the guy a dirty look that he couldn't see behind my helmet? Yes. Would I have let my passenger flip out and beat the shit out of the guy's car because he didn't LOOK at me because he was scared? No fucking way. But I'm sure the old guy is FAR less scared of bikes now.

being a$$hat without any common courtesy comes to mind if your on a pink gixxer honking the horn while beating on the car of a old guy as he creep past you.

your lucky you didn't get arrested or worse

isn't it illegal to ride a gixxer that has pink on it?

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Originally Posted by Jaynnus

Yeah...but he looked forward, making him a pompous ass...in order to be non-pompous one must poke their own eyes out and offer them to any motorcyclist that they infringe upon by sharing a road....and for that he deserved to have his car beat....wait....what?

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:spit: Anger management anyone? Why them old peeps be dissin' like dat yo? Great that some elderly couple fucks up and has the wherewithall to refrain from spitting dentures back at you. They probably would have beat both of your asses if it wasn't so close to nap time. :mope:

If I had to rate this post with a thumbs up or a thumbs down why...I'd just give it da finger.

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Originally Posted by jnm988

Would I have been happy? No. Would I have given the guy a dirty look that he couldn't see behind my helmet? Yes. Would I have let my passenger flip out and beat the shit out of the guy's car because he didn't LOOK at me because he was scared? No fucking way. But I'm sure the old guy is FAR less scared of bikes now.

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I'm not commenting on his passenger's behavior, I'm commenting on a few people's rationalization (you included) that reasoned since bikes do it to cars, it's okay for cars to do it to bikes. No, it's not. You tap me with your car and I 99% of the time fall down in traffic, I tap you and it's 30 minutes at the bodyshop getting a small scuff repaired.


Want to comment on the girls actions (beating window). Really I don't have a huge problem with it. It's easy for all of us Keyboard Kritics to say 'oh well that's not the PC-way to handle your differences' but fuck that. We all react to personal-injury inducing behavior differently and lemme tell ya, after being creamed by a car my tolerance for car against bike moves is pretty thin.

Do you drive differently with bikes around? I know I do. After riding for 10+ years and seeing the crazy shit that happens to me I make sure to put down my cellphone, quit fiddling with the radio, and pay attention anytime I have a motorcycle in my immediate vicinity. I know all too well the dangers car pose to bikes and one of my worst nightmares is causing another rider harm while driving my truck.

I've 'tapped' on my fair share of cars in my day be it skating, riding bike around Boston, or motorcycling, and it normally happened after some fucking driver almost ran me over. Passion at times rules reason and yea, sure, maybe I look back and think I could have handled it 'better', but at the time the situation dictated the response.

It's your life. Live it as you see fit. Defend it as you need. Be prepared to take responsibility for your actions though and if that nutty-fuck pulls a shotgun and smokes you both, well....

Yes, I ride. I'm constantly amazed at the stupid shit people do around bikes. But unless you have ridden, I don't think you have any perspective on that. I know I drive differently around bike now that I've been riding a few years. I was always careful, but now I understand what its like to be on the other end.

I wasn't saying the old guy was perfectly justified, but I know I've scared the shit out of a few drivers going around them on the right when they were turning left. I was merely saying it was an overreaction.

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I'm not commenting on his passenger's behavior, I'm commenting on a few people's rationalization (you included) that reasoned since bikes do it to cars, it's okay for cars to do it to bikes. No, it's not. You tap me with your car and I 99% of the time fall down in traffic, I tap you and it's 30 minutes at the bodyshop getting a small scuff repaired.


Want to comment on the girls actions (beating window). Really I don't have a huge problem with it. It's easy for all of us Keyboard Kritics to say 'oh well that's not the PC-way to handle your differences' but fuck that. We all react to personal-injury inducing behavior differently and lemme tell ya, after being creamed by a car my tolerance for car against bike moves is pretty thin.

Do you drive differently with bikes around? I know I do. After riding for 10+ years and seeing the crazy shit that happens to me I make sure to put down my cellphone, quit fiddling with the radio, and pay attention anytime I have a motorcycle in my immediate vicinity. I know all too well the dangers car pose to bikes and one of my worst nightmares is causing another rider harm while driving my truck.

I've 'tapped' on my fair share of cars in my day be it skating, riding bike around Boston, or motorcycling, and it normally happened after some fucking driver almost ran me over. Passion at times rules reason and yea, sure, maybe I look back and think I could have handled it 'better', but at the time the situation dictated the response.

It's your life. Live it as you see fit. Defend it as you need. Be prepared to take responsibility for your actions though and if that nutty-fuck pulls a shotgun and smokes you both, well....

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'nuff said

I had an impulse punch to some old lady's window once as she made my lane go from full-size to about 3 feet wide (just changing lanes at like 5mph, bumper-to-bumper traffic, and I had a sidewalk with curb next to me). She didn't look, didn't see me. One quick carbon-fiber-knuckled tap to her window and she went back to her lane apologizing. This is after repeatedly laying on the horn. Does it all end that well? No. Sometimes the driver of the car doesn't care, keeps merging and the rider becomes a statistic. I wasn't about to take that risk.

Do I think "flipping out" on the vehicle was appropriate? Not at all, but I can understand it. If someone puts your life at risk, then who knows what you'll do.

As for the retesting of older drivers....Why don't we just retest everyone when it is time to renew licenses? If it keeps bad drivers off the road, I am all in favor of it. Old, young, whatever, there are bad drivers out there who never should have been licensed to begin with, or may have lost the mental facilities to continue operating in a safe manner. However, it isn't totally unreasonable to think that the human brain begins to decline in function after a certain age. People's other organs give out, why not their brains? My grandfather's eyesight went first, so he didn't drive as much as he got older. Granted, he didn't drive much anyway because he had a bum leg from serving in World War 2. Then his kidney's failed and he passed away. Two organs gave out on him because of his age. Not disease, not defect. Age. When I get old, I hope I am not so stubborn as to put others' lives at risk for my own convenience. My grandfather's age was his mid-eighties when things started going south. My great grandmother made it to her 100s. For some it is older (like, never), and for some it is younger. But, is it really so horrible to be retested? I'll say it one more time: if it's age discrimination, then retest everyone.

***also, as a side note, is it age discrimination to require that 16 and 17 year olds complete driver's ed before they can get their license, but allow 18 year olds to do it with just an exam?

ok, so , like, yeah...

as i understand it, the bike was stationary (waiting to turn left) and the car crept by on the right?

someone explain the beef to me?
i must be slow.

only thing i can figure is the rider/passenger combo got scared and lashed out because of it.

i say no harm, no foul.

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ok, so , like, yeah...

as i understand it, the bike was stationary (waiting to turn left) and the car crept by on the right?

someone explain the beef to me?
i must be slow.

only thing i can figure is the rider/passenger combo got scared and lashed out because of it.

i say no harm, no foul.

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:stupid: I routinely do this on both a bike an in a car. I see other people do it on bikes and in cars. Unless they physically hit you, I don't see the problem. And if you can't pull up on the right of a car/bike without hitting them, you shouldn't be driving/riding. At the point where there was contact, yeah, the anger would begin.

The only time this maneuver pisses me off is when I'm in my car and a line of giant ass trucks/SUVs keep pulling up on my right while I'm trying to turn left. No fucktards, I can't see through your 8000 lb vehicle. Don't pull all the way up and obstruct my view if you can see over my hood, m'kay?

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I am sure that he really now has a hatred for some dipshit cagers now, thanks you moron!

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You're not the brightest bulb, eh?

I'd want to punch this old fart in the face once, his name is bob barker. well more than once, such a pimp with hotties.

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I'd want to punch this old fart in the face once, his name is bob barker. well more than once, such a pimp with hotties.

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:confused: Sometimes I think people just pass out face down on their keyboards and this is what results.

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:confused: Sometimes I think people just pass out face down on their keyboards and this is what results.

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:lmao::lolup::smash:

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Originally Posted by a13x

one of my worst nightmares is causing another rider harm while driving my truck.

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You're not alone with this nightmare.

~Cliff notes?

If he was squeezin by on the right to go right and you were going sraight or left who cares. Or if he got up close to the light to set off the signal to change (had a guy do that b4, was all good) no big deal. If he was turning left or going straight with you? Take off gas cap toss into intersection. then use foot to remove side view mirror as you accelerate past.