question for rattle can paint pro's.

[boosten lebaron]

Ive got an old cb honda that needs paint bad. The bike means nothing to me and im either gonna use it a good trade item or give it to my wife to crash. Either way i need to polish that little turd. Its just a tank and 2 small side panel. Whats the best rattle can paint to use? Id like it to look good for at least a few months if not longer. If its going to be a trade i just need it to look good for a few minutes. Ive painted plenty of rims and such but ive never done a whole tank and tried really hard to make it look nice. Im thinking duplicolor and some clear. I maybe clearing over stickers so im not sure what clears are compatable with that.
Im basically looking for a race bike special paint job. Ive got to repair a bullet hole in the tank so im gonna have some bondo too. Normally id just use my spray equipment but im out of some supplies and im not sinking one shilling into this bike if i dont have too. Rattle paint will be so much cheaper for me.

[jbmass]

Make sure whatever brand you use is a paint that will hold up to gasoline. Might be a bit more pricy, but you'll be happy when you time invested doesn't bubble up and look like ass.

[boosten lebaron]

Ya thats the one thing that really worries me. Ive never really had to deal with gas on my paint jobs before. Hopefully someone will chime in with a known quality paint.

[Chippertheripper]

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[R7]

If you have an automotive paint store close by, you can buy auto paint of your choice and color and have them put it in a rattle can. I know I saw this service with PPG paints at a CarQuest store not to long ago.
I've never had good luck with any of the store bought rattle cans lasting any length of time

[SVenpointsixtwo]

One other thing; I wouldn't recommend using bondo to fill the hole in the tank (how did that happen, anyway? ), as it'll start to leak eventually. Ethanol gas is rough on just about everything. If you can weld it shut, so much the better.

[Rada]

This place offers HOK in rattle cans..

http://www.stevensonspaint.com/servl.../26/Categories

[Rossco]

I got this with Dupli-color




Although I'd go over it with a can of this stuff so that the gas doesn't eat it away.

[boosten lebaron]

One other thing; I wouldn't recommend using bondo to fill the hole in the tank (how did that happen, anyway? ), as it'll start to leak eventually. Ethanol gas is rough on just about everything. If you can weld it shut, so much the better.

its been brazed but ill need bondo to make it nice. looks like a 22 shell did it. only went through one side. guy i got it off of was from oklahoma so im guessing that has something to do with it.

[boosten lebaron]

I got this with Dupli-color




Although I'd go over it with a can of this stuff so that the gas doesn't eat it away.

that looks exactly what im trying to do. has gas been eating it? did you clear it? what methods did you use?

[nhbubba]

I've heard nothing but good things about that 2k clear. I plan on using that on my CB if I ever get it painted. It is a 2-part system kinda sorta like the pro stuff.

[Rossco]

that looks exactly what im trying to do. has gas been eating it? did you clear it? what methods did you use?

Unfortunately I haven't got to test it as it's part of a project bike that I have yet to finish. I laid down a coat of filler primer, followed by 1 coat of Dupli-color red oxide primer and 2 coats of Duplicolor white primer (white primer is important if using a bright base-color). I wet sanded with 600 grit between coats.

I then flashed 2-3 coats of Dupli-color cherry red, wet-sanded it with 1000, then 2 coats of Dupli-color acrylic clear, wet sanded with 1500, then hand buffed.

I found out from the Nighthawk forums that I was posting my build thread on that my hard work was gonna be destroyed once I got a gas spill on it. So I plan on buying a can of 2-stage clear-coat from Eastwood and shooting that on my tank this spring. That should hopefully protect my work from gas spills. Oh and wear a good respirator when you use that clear, it's bad for ya.

TL DR; Dupli-color Primer and paint, wet-sand between coats, spray the painted tank with some eastwood clear coat and you should be good to go.

[SVRACER01]

Wirelessly posted (GS3)

The better your prep work, the better it will turn out. If youre using rattlecan then spend the extra $3 on the spray can handle sprayer thingamabob that clips on the top of the can. Saves your finger from cramping and actually lays down a good coat. Allows more control.
Sand with 200-300 grit
Clean
Primer
Sand with 200-300 again
Clean
Paint
Wet sand with 1000
Clean
Paint
Wet sand with 2000
Clean
Paint
(This is optional) wet sand with 2500, clean, then buff
(Or) wet sand with 2000 again, clear, 2000, clear, 2500, buff

It seems like a lot but its what you have to do to get a great finish. If youre just looking for a decent finish you can skip a couple steps.

[sveesix]

Just use something cheap, and throw a new coat on every year.

[Doc]

I'm with Oxx, prep is the most important part, well that and taking your time.

If you want a gas safe, quick alternative. Use Bedliner.

[gamorg02]

spraymax 2k is awesome stuff

[nhbubba]

Nice!

Is it really as durable (vs scratches, dings, gasoline, ethanol) as the interwebz claim?
What did you use under the clear for that tank?

[gamorg02]

primer:
http://semproducts.com/product-catal...tching-primer/

custom mix of multi-coat for base (mid 70’s GM metallic Mediterranean blue):
http://semproducts.com/product-catal...ls/multi-coat/


Scatches/dings, definitely. i did my wife's door as we had an incident and you can't tell difference between it and OEM.

I can't speak to the gas exposure as this is the first application near gas but its supposedly its better than anything else out there.

Nice!

Is it really as durable (vs scratches, dings, gasoline, ethanol) as the interwebz claim?
What did you use under the clear for that tank?

[StrayNut]

Unfortunately I haven't got to test it as it's part of a project bike that I have yet to finish. I laid down a coat of filler primer, followed by 1 coat of Dupli-color red oxide primer and 2 coats of Duplicolor white primer (white primer is important if using a bright base-color). I wet sanded with 600 grit between coats.

I then flashed 2-3 coats of Dupli-color cherry red, wet-sanded it with 1000, then 2 coats of Dupli-color acrylic clear, wet sanded with 1500, then hand buffed.

Sand with 200-300 grit
Clean
Primer
Sand with 200-300 again
Clean
Paint
Wet sand with 1000
Clean
Paint
Wet sand with 2000
Clean
Paint

Rossco and Oxx, do you remember how long it took to dry between these sanding/spraying steps? i.e. how much time should I set aside for this process?

Resulting pics in this thread look great!

[gamorg02]

I know you didn't ask me specifically, but I had posted this in another thread. rough steps:

3 coats of primer 15m+ in between coats
4 coats of top coat. 20m+ in between coats. basicaly +1 coat after you can't see the primer

2 light coats of clear. spraying a piece of wood next to it after the coat to see when its just barely tacky anymore. again about the same timeframe inbetween

then 2 heavy coats of clear for a good buffing/wet sanding base. almost to the point of dripping.

Then wetsand 1000, 2000, 3000 grit then air buff with megaires medium cut, then presto polishing compound. You usually have to wait ~24 hours between clear and sanding. If the clear goes down in the right environment and its not a highly visible part the sanding/buffing sometimes isn’t needed.

resulting pics:

[StrayNut]

I know you didn't ask me specifically, but I had posted this in another thread. rough steps:

Thanks, gamorg! Looks like it came out looking amazing. Coincidentally, this is for a hawk too, though not a stock one.

edit: also spraying the piece of wood next to it for timing is a great idea.

[gamorg02]

Thanks, gamorg! Looks like it came out looking amazing. Coincidentally, this is for a hawk too, though not a stock one.

edit: also spraying the piece of wood next to it for timing is a great idea.

thnx!

[Stromper]

What they said plus

When the next coat goes on the solvent goes all the way down and softens everything so spray lightly so it looks like wet snow the smooth will develop in like 10 minutes. Anymore and it will sag or run on the sides

I like the cans with the blue nozzle with the metal pin I have had near pro results with them

Lastly

URETHANE IS GAS RESISTANT

Let her dry for a couple of days

Make a clear coat of 2 layers of a clear urethane. I have had excellent results with a min wax EXTERIOR UV resistant spray clear urethane
they say wood but it has worked very well for me

[boosten lebaron]

Im probably gonna go with the 2k clear and some enamel paint. I was gonna go easy and go dulicolor for the enamel paint but they have a too limited color selection. I might go and get a custom color in a rattle can if i can find a local place that does it.

[gamorg02]

Im probably gonna go with the 2k clear and some enamel paint. I was gonna go easy and go dulicolor for the enamel paint but they have a too limited color selection. I might go and get a custom color in a rattle can if i can find a local place that does it.

if you can't genesse paint in utica ny does it but not sure about their shipping policy.