Welcome to NESR! Most features of this site require registration, including replying to threads, sending private messages, starting new threads, and uploading files. Click here to register.

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 51 to 62 of 62

Riding in the Zone

  1. #51

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Tony, thank-you. You have no idea what you did, but thanks anyway.

    Denno and Manny, eat my shorts.
    Awww... come on... don't leave me hangin'


    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Tony
    Trackdays in CT, NY, and NH
    www.TonysTrackDays.com



    Pirelli Track Tires - www.goMTAG.com


  2. #52
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Posts
    15,158

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by 35racer View Post
    Awww... come on... don't leave me hangin'

    Over a year ago, I was talking to a couple of guys in the garage and used the "Everything slowed down" line. They have never let me forget it since. I'm just glad to get some validation.

    FWIW, there is a scientific name for that state of mind and it has been documented with brainwave analysis in F1 drivers and other athletes. It's called "Flow".

    When Ayrton Senna crashed and died, his race team said that when they measured his brain activity during his fastest laps in testing, there was very very little measureable going on and Ayrton himself used to say he "forgot" whole sections of races, finding himself 10 laps on with no recollection of the previous 10 laps.

    fascinating subject

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  3. #53

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Yeah, that's true too.

    Usually in a race, I was dying for the halfway and white flags to come out because I was working so hard.

    These times, I felt like I could have rode 10 more laps with no problem.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Tony
    Trackdays in CT, NY, and NH
    www.TonysTrackDays.com



    Pirelli Track Tires - www.goMTAG.com


  4. #54
    Super Moderator OreoGaborio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    MA
    Age
    45
    Posts
    39,280

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    I've found myself in that state once or twice... but it usually doesn't last for more than a couple of corners.

    Usually I'm in that state of higher awareness just before you find that "flow" where things still happen fast but you process them faster. This slows things down a little, but not quite to the point that it's happening in slow motion and everything's effortless.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    -Pete
    NEMRR #81 - ECK Racing
    Cyclesmith Track Days
    Woodcraft | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media
    '03 Tuono | '06 SV650 | '04 CRF250X | '24 Aprilia Tuareg

  5. #55

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGitorio View Post
    This slows things down a little, but not quite to the point that it's happening in slow motion and everything's effortless.
    Yeah... it's definitely not a "slow motion" thing for me.

    But it feels like I would feel if I was riding at 90% pace instead of 100%.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Tony
    Trackdays in CT, NY, and NH
    www.TonysTrackDays.com



    Pirelli Track Tires - www.goMTAG.com


  6. #56
    Lifer Ken C's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Western MA
    Age
    63
    Posts
    1,339

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    The Zone is illusive. Some people can access it more than others.

    I believe the more you are aware of it the more it happens. You can't make it happen, but you can increase the likelihood that it will happen.

    Racing is when it happens the most for me, but I feel it frequently even when riding on the street. It happens by tuning into your surroundings and having a sixth sense so yopu can head off possible problems.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  7. #57
    Super Moderator OreoGaborio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    MA
    Age
    45
    Posts
    39,280

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    right, right.

    Interestingly enough, most of my fastest lap times have come at the END of a race when I'm the most tired & not pushing quite as hard... Maybe I should stay up partying all night so I'm tired at the beginning of the race, too

    Or maybe I'll just go slow to go fast

    *woooo saaaahhhh*

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    -Pete
    NEMRR #81 - ECK Racing
    Cyclesmith Track Days
    Woodcraft | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media
    '03 Tuono | '06 SV650 | '04 CRF250X | '24 Aprilia Tuareg

  8. #58
    I Dance With Will
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    unknown
    Posts
    8,713

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    i think i felt like this all the time.. like you and your bike becomes one... then there's feeling of joy and satisfaction... well until you run into traffic and cant pass. then it's frustration and stress... seriously..



    Quote Originally Posted by 35racer View Post
    I've now started stocking Large T-shirts too, so no problem there.

    As for the book, and particularly the paragraph KHAM pointed out... I have definitely experienced that state a few times... mainly while racing... and it was pretty cool.

    Not sure I felt a "deeper appreciation for life" (but that feeling has come to me before on street rides) but I was certainly in another state of mind, so to speak.

    Everything slowed down in my mind, and I could simply do no wrong on the bike. Coming upon lappers, I was able to lay out a plan while they were still 2corners ahead of me, and then execute it exactly. It's like the script was written and all the actors were following it... and I was the lead character that was supposed to slice through them.

    Point is, much of the time I am riding fast on the track, I am working hard and always feeling a bit "behind". Every once in a while though... something clicks and it all goes very quiet in my helmet. I no longer feel/hear my breathing, and all of my body motions seem to happen effortlessly.

    Getting into this state on a nice set of street twisties could be cool too. While it doesn't have to include ludicrous speeds, it could just be a quick pace that seems slow to you, giving you that much more time to predict and act on any outside "surprises"... which won't actually be a surprise to you.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    "fuckit!"

  9. #59
    I Dance With Will
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    unknown
    Posts
    8,713

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Over a year ago, I was talking to a couple of guys in the garage and used the "Everything slowed down" line. They have never let me forget it since. I'm just glad to get some validation.

    FWIW, there is a scientific name for that state of mind and it has been documented with brainwave analysis in F1 drivers and other athletes. It's called "Flow".

    When Ayrton Senna crashed and died, his race team said that when they measured his brain activity during his fastest laps in testing, there was very very little measureable going on and Ayrton himself used to say he "forgot" whole sections of races, finding himself 10 laps on with no recollection of the previous 10 laps.

    fascinating subject
    that's what im talking about. soemtimes you can't remember what just happen from last traffic light to the next. i know i did. could be memory lost.. what's that word?

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    "fuckit!"

  10. #60
    Soul Rider Paul_E_D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    western, MA
    Age
    54
    Posts
    15,225

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    I'd like to think I was acheiving flow almost every time I rode in my last season. I was always one or 2 steps ahead of what was happening on the bike/track. If a slide happened, I knew about it before I felt it. The bars folding gently in my hands. I seemed to have time to watch it happen.

    I couldn't sustain it the whole session, but I could get there in most every practice and race. My laptimes pretty much only wavered by a half second the entire season. practice, race, dicing, or leading by a mile, it didn't matter. Damn, that's what I miss most about racing.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Paul_E_D


  11. #61
    I Dance With Will
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    unknown
    Posts
    8,713

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    boy was i "in zone" first time i try the weed.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Last edited by Kham; 09-25-08 at 05:27 PM.
    "fuckit!"

  12. #62
    Senior Member Hoss's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Southern, NH
    Posts
    671

    Re: Riding in the Zone

    Just spotted the book in the Whitehorse catalog this morning as well!

    Congrats Ken, can't wait to check it out!

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

Similar Threads

  1. "Riding in the Zone" by Ken Condon
    By Doc in forum General Bike Related
    Replies: 43
    Last Post: 03-04-09, 06:48 AM
  2. Zone time....
    By DucDave in forum General Bike Related
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 08-19-08, 07:28 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •