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View Poll Results: Do you blip the throttle when down shifting

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  • Grab brake and clutch and blip for each gear

    6 46.15%
  • Grab brake and clutch and blip for final gear

    3 23.08%
  • Don't blip but feather clutch

    3 23.08%
  • I don't need no stinkin blip

    1 7.69%
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Blip or not to blip

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    aka Johnny Valve Stem need4speed's Avatar
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    Blip or not to blip

    When approaching a turn where you need to go from 6th to 3rd gear, do you:

    1. Grab brake and clutch, take the down shifts with the clutch in blip and then release clutch lever while matching engine speed to prevent rear wheel lock up? (taking two gears, releasing clutch lever, then blipping and taking 3rd gear is included in this)

    2. Grab brake and clutch, blip and when engine rpm has peaked and is on its way down, use shift lever to go down a gear and repeat for each gear. When do you apply shifter pressure in relation to blip?

    I guess what got me thinking was seeing some guys do two blips really quick when coming down two gears. It appeared that they were doing both blips with the clutch lever in and not engaging the clutch for every gear. If I am at the end of a 6th gear straight for a 3rd gear turn, I am going to get on brakes, pull the clutch lever in, hitt the shifter twice, blip and engage the clutch.


    My point is, do you really need to blip while the clutch lever is in for each gear, or just the last one?

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    Blip or not to blip

    The only problem with feathering the clutch is that most bikes, especailly the EX that you race, don't have a rev limiter for downshifting i.e. not on the gas. So if you are not careful you can over spin the engine and then bad things happen. I remember someone saying that the main bearings on the EX are especailly prone to spinning if you over rev them during downshifting..

    G-man

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    Blip or not to blip

    He can get away with feathering the clutch, but he's gotta pay attention to the RPM's. By modulating the clutch lever he can feed in more or less. Some pros do it that way, and from what I read, some of the GP bikes take control of the clutch duties to aid in wheel hop on high decel conditions.

    I blip, and ratchet, but I found myself feathering a lot when I was playing "TrackDay". The bus I was driving loved to go hoppity hop now and then...

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    Blip or not to blip

    Originally posted by TLRMan
    He can get away with feathering the clutch, but he's gotta pay attention to the RPM's. By modulating the clutch lever he can feed in more or less. Some pros do it that way, and from what I read, some of the GP bikes take control of the clutch duties to aid in wheel hop on high decel conditions.

    I blip, and ratchet, but I found myself feathering a lot when I was playing "TrackDay". The bus I was driving loved to go hoppity hop now and then...
    Did you break your slipper clutch or something? That was one of the good things about the TL.

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    Blip or not to blip

    Originally posted by Collision pro
    Did you break your slipper clutch or something? That was one of the good things about the TL.
    That slipper clutch is a piece of crap....
    it's too toggle switchy....especially if the rear wheel starts hopping...if you can keep the ass end on the ground it works fine...Would need some adjustment to get it dialed in better.

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    Blip or not to blip

    Mine was nice but it could have been the ohlins shock that made it better.

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    Blip or not to blip

    Originally posted by Collision pro
    Mine was nice but it could have been the ohlins shock that made it better.
    So true considering I still got that roundy-round damper in there...
    I've experienced the "slipper" in action many times, but always knew it needed a little tweeking. Seems to need lighter springs. It disengages and engages very abruptly, not smooth at all.
    But what do you want, it's a TLR, and not an R7....

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    Blip or not to blip

    I always used to blip, until I started racing. It seems that it took to much time and effort to blip on the track. You do have to be careful though! I never had a problem with overreving, but I do remember goin into turn 1 sideways, on more than one occasion, with the back wheel just about locked up. Not a good thing on a wet track either, just pull the clutch back in and hope for the best.

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    Blip or not to blip

    Originally posted by GMS1000
    I never had a problem with overreving, but I do remember goin into turn 1 sideways, on more than one occasion, with the back wheel just about locked up.
    I thought that was your Nicky Haden impression of backing it in

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