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    Power Commander mapping

    So I called Dynojet... No help with any maps for the 800ss.

    I am assuming a good start point is to us the 800ssie Monster OR the S2R maps. The S2R I am thinking would be a closer match.

    I also have a custom map from ARC Fabrication that I pulled off the web.

    I am getting a crash course in ECU tuning...

    Rob's Dyno won't be at the track and all the Dyno's near me don't do any tuning.

    Any ideas?

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Doc,
    Start with the off the shelf map for your bike and
    similar exhaust. That will get you 90% there.

    The last 10% is the work of an artist.
    It takes time and care. If someone knows a good tuner
    let me know.

    I've had my PC3 tuned by Seacoast and they did
    terrible job. It was worse than stock.

    I traded maps with someone having the same bike and
    exhaust. His being made custom and its really spot on.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    So it is pretty easy to load custom maps?

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    So it is pretty easy to load custom maps?
    Loading maps is easy as pie...


    Creating custom maps (as in a one-off map created specifically for your bike) is a matter of tallent and artistry.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Doc, I'll see if I can get my friend's S2R map, it's an 800 with pod filters breathing through a pair of arrows. Won't be perfect, but should be in the ballpark. If you can't find a local dyno, make an appointment with Moto Milano in Windham for a full map, and enjoy a day up in Maine. : )

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Doc...

    Contact the manufacturer of the exhaust on your bike. They will most likely be able to provide you with a map that they created for your bike/exhaust combination.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Doc try and call Jamie at FuelMoto 1-877-729-4754 he my have a map that will work.....he is a PC master....

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Quote Originally Posted by GixerJockey View Post
    Doc...

    Contact the manufacturer of the exhaust on your bike. They will most likely be able to provide you with a map that they created for your bike/exhaust combination.
    great idea! i just did that for my exhaust

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    The manufacturer is ARC Fabrication. He is hard to get ahold of. I have a screenshot of a map for another of his systems. I am hoping I can just plug in some numbers and input that custom map.

    I am not familiar with mapping. Is it plug and play? Like upload a file and your done or do you have to input numbers for every RPM and sensor?

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    If you're using someone else's map, you just upload the file via Dynojet's software to the PC3 and you're done. To custom map by hand, you have to tweak individual cells, it's alot like working on a large spreadsheet.

    On the left you have throttle positions, 0 through 100%, with finer steps at smaller throttle openings. Across the bottom you have rev points in 250 rev steps. Line up the throttle position and rev, that cell is where you add or remove fuel in comparison to the on board 'stock map' in the PC3.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    it's fairly easy, so as long as you're patient, tweak a little then ride it and see how it feel, then change again...

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    So I will try to input this.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    call bcm. I have seen quite a few arc exhausts on bikes there. They may know someone with a custom map.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanMoto View Post
    call bcm. I have seen quite a few arc exhausts on bikes there. They may know someone with a custom map.

    Good tip. Thanks!

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    If you mean how to actually upload a map to your bike once you
    have one: yes its easy. Get a laptop and USB cable.

    Use the software that Dynojet has on their website:
    Power Commander General Downloads

    Then just connect the laptop to your Power Commander, and
    have the bike turned on. The Software has an interface that
    lets your either download the existing map on the bike
    or upload and over write map on the bike.
    It also has a feature that can compare maps so that you can
    see where particular maps are different.
    All the maps are, are tables with + and - figures in them
    representing air / fuel mix based on RPM and Throttle Opening.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Jesse at Seacoast Sport Cycles will build you a map. Give him a call.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottg22 View Post
    Jesse at Seacoast Sport Cycles will build you a map. Give him a call.
    +1 He did my 749 and RSVR and both were right on. There was a night and day difference with the Ducati.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Will do guys!! Thanks!!

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    How much do these people charge? I'd like to get tuned after I work out some other kinks.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Quote Originally Posted by GNTurbo6 View Post
    How much do these people charge? I'd like to get tuned after I work out some other kinks.
    Figure two to four hours of labor at the least for a full map.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Hey Doc,

    Give the guys down at Dentsport a call. They have an AWD dyno in house and have experience with Power Commanders not to mention tuning.

    They're in Norwood, Ma.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    but Vt to Norwood would be quite a haul for just mapping.

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    Re: Power Commander mapping

    Try pinging Guru Lou...dont know his schedule or if he still does the dyno at RJ's , but he can steer you in the right direction...

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