DuPont™ Motorcycle Degreaser

[Kazinator]

Just bought 2 cans....

anyone use this before?
http://www2.dupont.com/Consumer_Lubr...otorcycle.html

[Kazinator]

[fineout]

Nope, but i use the teflon chain saver and teflon lubricant on my chain and its worked pretty well so far. Dupont makes good stuff and from a cycleworld article I read about them, they seem to actually get opnions from a lot of users before they release something so im sure its good.

[01xj]

Never used the Dupont degreaser. I use Zep Big Orange. Safe on plastics and powdercoating and it cleans the hell out of my chain.

For chain wax I just pick up whatever the local powersports place has that's clear.

[Kazinator]

Nope, but i use the teflon chain saver and teflon lubricant on my chain and its worked pretty well so far. Dupont makes good stuff and from a cycleworld article I read about them, they seem to actually get opnions from a lot of users before they release something so im sure its good.

Yeah that site is what originally tipped me off to them.

Just went by Lowes and got some of the multi-use lube and chain lubricant... both made by Dupont.

[Jim]

what are you using it for?
engine cleaning or chain?

[Kazinator]

chain

[Jim]

everyone will have their opinions on what's best.
personally, I've always just used kerosene. it's what's recommended in the service manuals, and it's cheap.

i'd be interested to know if your stuff works well on engines, like the front sprocket area.

[Kazinator]

For what its worth, webbikeworld seems to swear by this stuff.

I was going to try kerosene as well but I can't find the stuff!

[Jim]

kerosene can be sold at most local hardware stores. I got mine at an Ace hardware, even though it was expensive ($12/gallon). i know some places that refil propane tanks have kerosene pumps as well & they sell it for like $3/gallon.

no matter what product you use, get a grunge brush. you'll thank me later.

[Dip Dungles]

Totally agree with the grunge brush. Makes cleaning your chain turn into a five minute job.

[Kazinator]

get a grunge brush.

Roger that



I've been trying to think of a good way to keep the area clean when doing this...outside of just piling a bunch of newspapers or towels. My bike is in a storage unit so the less mess I leave behind the better.

Ideas?

[Jim]

get one of these paint roller things. i got an aluminum at Hoem Depot for a few bucks.



if you really want to go nuts, put some shop towels or newspaper underneath, just to be safe.

[mell0]

I just thought of this but what do people think about brake parts cleaner? I feel like that would be stupid easy to use.

[Kazinator]

I just thought of this but what do people think about brake parts cleaner? I feel like that would be stupid easy to use.

I thought I read that brake cleaner is too harsh...

[nixoid]

right or wrong I've been using CRC Electronic Cleaner.


It is like magic on a chain. You barley need to wipe the chain to get the schmootz off when I use this stuff. I seem to get a normal service life out of my chains and the rubber o-rings seem to hold up just fine.

kev

[dankatz]

I use the degreaser and chain saver. They both work very well. My only complaint is that it has a weird smell to it. I also swear by the Dupont products.

[drinkingmymilk]

Kerosene to clean, Dupont teflon lube after every time. +20,000 miles on my stock set up so it's safe to say I like their stuff.

[mell0]

I thought I read that brake cleaner is too harsh...

Too harsh on what? Mechanics tend to use it for damn about every metal surface you can think of. I can imagine the grease and stuff would just drip right off.

[Kazinator]

Orings maybe?

[nixoid]

Orings maybe?

My thoughts exactly.

[mell0]

Orings maybe?

Right, didn't think about that. Would non-chlorinated brake parts cleaner be safe? I'm pretty sure that's what Honda's brake parts cleaner is, and that's what they recommend for chain cleaning, but I'm not 100% sure.

[shortbus]

Right, didn't think about that. Would non-chlorinated brake parts cleaner be safe? I'm pretty sure that's what Honda's brake parts cleaner is, and that's what they recommend for chain cleaning, but I'm not 100% sure.

yep it is safe... it is what Honda uses for that.

In service manuals you will see them recommend kerosene.

Use whatever you have... kerosene can be found at some gas stations too (Lowell MA has it at a lot of haffners)

[BluGixxer]

Yeah that site is what originally tipped me off to them.

Just went by Lowes and got some of the multi-use lube and chain lubricant... both made by Dupont.

Not all chain and lube products are created equal , remeber these hardware stores sell to everybody , not just motorcycle people. (example) Farmers that use lube on there machines that don't turn the rpms or stress. Even though its made from a reputable company, it might be for a different kind of chain. I tried that at napa.

On another note , kerosene and diesel are close , diesel is more available , and about the same price , the kerosene you can buy in HD & lowes for $12.00 is the super refined stuff that doesn't leave a bad smell when burned .

But what ever you use , make sure the cleaner is off and or evaporated off the chain. If kerosene breaks down dirty chain grease and you leave the chain wet (inside the o-rings) the kerosene will break down the new chain grease as well , then the lubricating value goes out the door.

And they do sell chain brushes , it has 3 sides .. as for the mess , I try to catch dirty liqued in a pan of some sort, I have an old bakeing pan ,only 1" deep but it works.

[Garandman]

Not all chain and lube products are created equal , remeber these hardware stores sell to everybody , not just motorcycle people. (example) Farmers that use lube on there machines that don't turn the rpms or stress. Even though its made from a reputable company, it might be for a different kind of chain. I tried that at napa.//

Here is the list of DuPont Teflon Lubricants.

The first two products are DuPont™ Teflon™ Multi-Use Lubricant ($5.08 at Lowes)

A superior multi-use lubricant featuring proprietary self-cleaning technology. Lubricates without attracting grit and grime, eliminates squeaks, prevents rust and protects moving parts. Lasts up to 3 to 5 times longer in friction testing against other leading lubricants.

and DuPont™ Teflon™ Chain-Saver Lubricant ($7.99 at most places).

A high performance chain lubricant utilizing a patented dry wax formulation. DuPont™ Teflon™ Chain-Saver doesn’t attract dirt and doesn’t fling off. Can help chains and sprockets last up to 5 times longer.

If you read the MSDS sheets, the contents seem to be exactly the same, in the same quantities.....

http://msds.dupont.com/msds/pdfs/EN/...2f8061fd03.pdf
http://msds.dupont.com/msds/pdfs/EN/...35802b4fc7.pdf

Webbikeworld did a review/comparion and noted:

DuPont told us that the newer Chain-Saver lube also uses the same basic formula as the Multi-Use lubricant, but Chain-Saver contains more of both the Teflon and moly for added temperature and pressure resistance. DuPont says that both lubes can withstand temperatures up to 300° F (149° C), and both are listed as "O-ring safe".

We asked DuPont about the differences between the two products and they indicated that the two lubes are nearly identical.

However, we noticed that Chain-Saver is much thicker and more like a conventional motorcycle chain lube. When sprayed on a chain (after shaking the can per instructions), it leaves a much heavier residue than the Multi-Use spray.

DuPont Motorcycle Chain Lubes - YouTube

I've been using the multi-use on my chains because some of the guys on stromtrooper have been using it for years. When they are travelling it's a lot easier to get, along with being a couple bucks cheaper. The official stromtrooper chain maintenance regimen is to lube the chain every other tank of fuel (about 500 miles) and mine has only been adjusted an 1/8th turn in 16,000 miles. Most people worry about cleaning the chain too much and lubing too little.

One "gotcha" is that Lowes also sells DuPont Teflon 10 Oz. Silicone Lubricant. It's in the yellow can, not blue, and is only a couple bucks. I use it on locks and most places where others use WD40 [which being a penetrating oil, not a lubricant, has probably destroyed more equipment than it's saved.] It's not something that would stand up to chain use.


My other "favorite" products for the workshop are:

Lubriplate 130A grease - used on the M1 Garand since WWII, it's a waterproof grease that's excellent for lots of general grease applications on outdoor power equipment, underhood, firearms, etc.

Loctite Extend Rust Treatment
Stuff is great for neutralizing rust on all sorts of items - anything from underhood components to shovels, snow thrower housings, etc.