WTB - Take-offs for SV650

[Karaya One]

Slicks really aren't all that different than DOT race tires, which aren't really all that different than a track day oriented tire, which aren't all that different than sporty street tires. The biggest differences are grip and the operating temperature range.

Except for casings, and compounds, and constructions. Profiles, plies, ply types, etc....

Otherwise you're right - they aren't that much different.

[OreoGaborio]

Except for casings, and compounds, and constructions. Profiles, plies, ply types, etc....

Otherwise you're right - they aren't that much different.

There's always one.....

Dave, I was making a generalization. My point is that they're all round, rubber and stick to the road and that there's only a few differences as you progress up the chain from one to the other. There's nothing "magical" about slicks or DOT's that all of a sudden makes warmers a life-or-death prerequisite.

[Karaya One]

Hey - don't get me going on tire warmers....

They have done more damage to race tires, and are the source of more mis-information than anything else in the paddock.

Only ONE GUY says you must have them - the tire warmer salesman.

[CBR929RE]

Hey - don't get me going on tire warmers....

They have done more damage to race tires, and are the source of more mis-information than anything else in the paddock.

Only ONE GUY says you must have them - the tire warmer salesman.

ha first time in awhile not using warmers today (forgot to put then on) and I crash. of course they had nothing do with each other as it was a few laps in and the tires were good to go.

[SVRACER01]

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I don't use warmers at trackdays usually, mainly because I forget and I don't usually know when I'm going back out.
I do a lap at a medium pace then a lap a little faster and by lap 3 I'm at full speed.
Nhms is a rough pavement track and it has a lot of stop and go. So its fairly easy to get heat in the tires by braking and hard acceleration and the rough pavement produces heat as well, but the track is fairly short so I take 2 laps to ensure enough heat.

[butcher bergs]

I don't use warmers at trackdays usually, mainly because I forget and I don't usually know when I'm going back out.
I do a lap at a medium pace then a lap a little faster and by lap 3 I'm in the tires at T10...

Hi Oxx.

[tsorfas]

i ran dunlops DOTs (no warmers of course) last track day and the difference was huge comparing to Pilot Power 2CT..
louden seems pretty easy to bring tires to desired temperature 1 1/2- 2 is more than enough

[TheIglu]

Dunlop, Michelin or Bridgestone?

Dunlop.

[SVRACER01]

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I don't use warmers at trackdays usually, mainly because I forget and I don't usually know when I'm going back out.

I do a lap at a medium pace then a lap a little faster and by lap 3 I'm in the tires at T10...

Hi Oxx.

oh, look at you with your jokes. that bike was on warmers and i had already done about 8-10 laps....but there were Michelins on it. and for the record...technically i was still in T9 unlike when jim crashed it and it was technically in T2

[butcher bergs]

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and another thing...it was ON the tires

[daviid]

i have a set of bridgestones, 120/60 front, 165/63 rear slicks im trying to unload. 2 trackdays and 6 race laps

[kb1]

Dave - you are pretty far away from me, but shoot me some pics of the tires.

For the record, I ran slicks at Jersey both days, and did not use warmers. It was chilly in the mornings! But per Tony and Pete's expert advice, I went out and just put some smooth laps down to build heat early. By mid 2nd lap I was riding at MY current pace and the bike was on rails. Now I don't claim to be super fast, but even as I worked on progressing and improving in different corners, trying to go faster each time around the track, I never had a problem with traction. As a note, there were a LOT of minor lowsides due to traction loss on cold tires, I never had an issue at all.

[CBR929RE]

Dave - you are pretty far away from me, but shoot me some pics of the tires.

For the record, I ran slicks at Jersey both days, and did not use warmers. It was chilly in the mornings! But per Tony and Pete's expert advice, I went out and just put some smooth laps down to build heat early. By mid 2nd lap I was riding at MY current pace and the bike was on rails. Now I don't claim to be super fast, but even as I worked on progressing and improving in different corners, trying to go faster each time around the track, I never had a problem with traction. As a note, there were a LOT of minor lowsides due to traction loss on cold tires, I never had an issue at all.

its actually amazing how much traction race tires have when cold if you are smooth on the throttle.

[daviid]

Dave - you are pretty far away from me, but shoot me some pics of the tires.

For the record, I ran slicks at Jersey both days, and did not use warmers. It was chilly in the mornings! But per Tony and Pete's expert advice, I went out and just put some smooth laps down to build heat early. By mid 2nd lap I was riding at MY current pace and the bike was on rails. Now I don't claim to be super fast, but even as I worked on progressing and improving in different corners, trying to go faster each time around the track, I never had a problem with traction. As a note, there were a LOT of minor lowsides due to traction loss on cold tires, I never had an issue at all.

hey kb, im actually in central ct. i never update my location as i was moving constantly. the next time i run to the trailer i will snag some pics.

[kb1]

its actually amazing how much traction race tires have when cold if you are smooth on the throttle.

That's what Tony told me Sunday morning before my first session, so I focused on being smooth and never had a problem.