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Help with painting estimate
i may paint a 1 bedrrom apt for extra money
living room is like 14x16
bedroom is like 14x18
hallway is 12x4
kitchen is 10x12
bathroom is 6x8
tall ceilings though, like 9 or 10 feet
paint all the walls, and the trim, paint the ceiling and fix some cracks in the ceiling, killz on bathroom ceiling
It would need to be done by MONDAY.
What would you charge? or what would it cost? I have NO idea :/
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pittenger is your man for materials
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That prick only sells the shit, he has no idea what the labor is worth.
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yeah?
it would be a lot of painting for one man in one weekend....
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Prep is the big expense if it needs it
Cutting in the trim if any or taping if its finished woodwork.
Are ther colors ? or wam bam Antque Flat White all over ?
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Intentionally walk the giraffe & pitch to the elephant? :dunno:
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for just one weekend that job seems a little big.
And yes richw is correct. the prep is the biggest thing.
Do you need to fill holes and shit too, or just paint?
I do some painting on the side and for that Job I would charge around... $350 for each room that needs painting (NOT INCLUDING PAINT, that’s just labor) and most likely will take you around 8 hours each room to prep, spackle, sand and paint if you are a good painter and can really bang it out! Those rooms are pretty large and the 10 ft ceilings are going to make it quite difficult if you don't have the right equipment.
the Bathroom I'd charge $200 (bathrooms can be a pain in the ass getting around the toilet, sing and stuff) and the Hallway about $150. and would most likely take about 8 hours for both
And I would add these would be prices for friends and family. Painting is no joke. It's not as simple as people think if you want to do it correct and have it look nice.
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Have the ceilings been painted before? if not then they are going to suck up paint like a sponge. I used to do this when I was a teenager and I still charged at least $200-300 per room. High ceilings like that would require a ladder for cutting in etc... How good are you with a sash brush? Think you'll need to tape off? Like Rich said, color will change things significantly. You'll need a couple tarps, probably 2-3 thick nap rollers for the ceilings, 3-6 rollers for walls. At least 2 good brushes, one sash and one regular. Broom handle for the rollers or an extendable one if you want to drop the money. 6ft ladder.
The trim work and ceilings (depending on if they've been painted before) are going to take you the most time. I would recommend having a friend help you so one can do the walls and the other trim. Also, do the walls first and then go back for the trim. Kitchens and bathrooms suck.
I would say about $1500 in labor.
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So a 10x12 room with 9ft ceilings is around 400SF of wall space. (9*10)*2 + (9*12)*2 Below makes it look like quick estimate of more than 1500sq ft (not counting ceiling work or trim) - If paint costs around $600 I would say labor is somewhere around 1 - 2x supply cost.
http://www.costhelper.com/cost/home-...-interior.html
Typical costs:
Interior paint itself costs anywhere from $12-$50 or more a gallon, depending on the quality. Painting a 12x12-foot room, both walls and ceiling, can require $25-$100 worth of paint, plus $10-$50 for primer, brushes, rollers, drop clothes and other supplies. For a 1,500-square-foot home, supplies run $200-$300 for average paint, and $400-$600 for higher quality.
Expect to pay $200-$400 to have a 12x12-foot room painted by a licensed contractor with brand-name paints; a 15x20-foot room or larger runs $300-$700 or more; and a 1,200-1,500 square foot home is $1,100-$2,000 or more. Having the ceiling painted bumps the cost to the high end of the scale.
What should be included:
Whether doing it yourself or hiring someone, buy the best quality paint you can afford; it lasts longer and in some situations requires only one coat of paint instead of two. Painting a room usually involves prep work, primer and latex or alkyd paints with a range of finishes. HGTV.com gives a quick overview as well as a list of painting dos and don'ts.
ThisOldHouse.com provides tips for picking interior colors and step-by-step instructions for painting a room.
A painting contractor's estimate usually includes all prep work (including taping and moving small items, primer and two or more coats of paint.
Additional costs:
Cheap paint roller covers leave fuzz on the wall while inexpensive brushes leave streaky marks; pay a few extra cents or dollars to get better results.
It takes more coats of paint and costs more to cover a dark color with a light one, or vice versa.
Removing heavy furniture is often not included in painters' estimates; if you can't do it yourself or hire someone, ask if there will be an extra charge.
Having to paint crown molding, baseboards, wainscoting or other detailed can add to a contractor's estimated price, as can walls taller than the average of 8 feet. The exact extra expense will varies depending on the amount of extra labor required.
Discounts:
If a painter is setting up to do a single room in a home, additional rooms may cost less than the first--it's possible to save money overall by painting everything at once.
Painters' quotes can be lower in winter, early spring or late fall--the off-season--than in peak summer months when there's lot of work available. Ask if there's a discount if the project is done on a fill-in basis, in-between other projects.
Shopping for painting an interior:
Explore color and style ideas from major paint manufacturers Behr and Sherwin-Williams.
HGTV.com provides a paint calculator to determine how many gallons will be needed. Lowes sells paint and provides do-it-yourself tips.
The Painting and Decorating Contractors of America gives tips for hiring a pro and links to its members.
Get estimates from several contractors, request and contact references, search for complaints at the Better Business Bureau and check that the company is properly bonded and insured, as well as licensed in your state.
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Oh and dont listen to a fucking word HGTV says. I see more false information on there than anywhere else.
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1st of all that's a big job to get done by monday unless you already started or already have experience. It's also a big job to do on your own with 10 foot ceilings and having never cut in before..... This will be allot harder than you imagined.
Needing "Kills" on the bathroom ceiling leads me to believe you really need to spray bleach solution first and wait a few days on the bathroom. You don't want to Kills over mildew or bleach improperly.
Prep work is 1 full day of work for someone that knows what they are doing.
Ceilings are another day of work.
Walls and trim 1-3 days depending on the amount / type of trim, color variations, etc.
I leave you with a few tidbits that I wish someone told me before I painted over 200 houses in my 20s. I learned this on my way.
1. Get good paints from Pittenger5. Don't try to save on paint cost, it will cost you more in the end in labor and quality. I preferred Ben Moore at the time, but ask Richie.
2. Get quality roller naps. (I think they're made of lambswool) You can reuse if you take care of them. Get a quality roller pan and roller handle. NO HD CRAP!!!
3. Get quality brushes. Ben moore makes some great china bristle brushes.
4. Clean Clean Clean your tools right away. Good brushes are like gold.
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DuncanMoto
I leave you with a few tidbits that I wish someone told me before I painted over 200 houses in my 20s. I learned this on my way.
1. Get good paints from Pittenger5. Don't try to save on paint cost, it will cost you more in the end in labor and quality. I preferred Ben Moore at the time, but ask Richie.
2. Get quality roller naps. (I think they're made of lambswool) You can reuse if you take care of them. Get a quality roller pan and roller handle. NO HD CRAP!!!
3. Get quality brushes. Ben moore makes some great china bristle brushes.
4. Clean Clean Clean your tools right away. Good brushes are like gold.
Preface: Killz = shit. If the ceilings are already painted and in good shape, dont bother priming, just more weight.
1. True, whether you get it from me or not.
2. TRUE, not made of lambswool though.
3. True, cept china bristle is only for oil based paint.
4. True.
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well, Ill try to answer SOME questions
basically its my old apt, I live downstairs now
Some spackling will be required, but not a lot
I am quite experienced painting, but never charge for it.
I just went up and looked at the apt to refresh my mem, and it would be a bitch,m there just arent a lot of flat surfaces, and theres a shitload of trim and things that would take extra time...
It doesnt have ot be prepped toooo much, its an 1800s house and a lot of the walls are horsehair.
Basically its an old apt that needs a fresh coat before the new tennants
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richw
Prep is the big expense if it needs it
Cutting in the trim if any or taping if its finished woodwork.
Are ther colors ? or wam bam Antque Flat White all over ?
Curretnly it looks like 2 whites, trim and walls
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Pittenger5
Preface: Killz = shit. If the ceilings are already painted and in good shape, dont bother priming, just more weight.
1. True, whether you get it from me or not.
2. TRUE, not made of lambswool though.
3. True, cept china bristle is only for oil based paint.
4. True.
theres mold on the ceiling in the bathroom, hence the kilz
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Hauptman
Have the ceilings been painted before? if not then they are going to suck up paint like a sponge. I used to do this when I was a teenager and I still charged at least $200-300 per room. High ceilings like that would require a ladder for cutting in etc... How good are you with a sash brush? Think you'll need to tape off? Like Rich said, color will change things significantly. You'll need a couple tarps, probably 2-3 thick nap rollers for the ceilings, 3-6 rollers for walls. At least 2 good brushes, one sash and one regular. Broom handle for the rollers or an extendable one if you want to drop the money. 6ft ladder.
The trim work and ceilings (depending on if they've been painted before) are going to take you the most time. I would recommend having a friend help you so one can do the walls and the other trim. Also, do the walls first and then go back for the trim. Kitchens and bathrooms suck.
I would say about $1500 in labor.
this sounds right
I dont think im gonna do it
It would be soooooo much to squeeze in 1 weekend
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xrocket21
theres mold on the ceiling in the bathroom, hence the kilz
Killz is a brand name for primers. Near as I know they do not have a mildewcide.
Use water/TSP/a little bleach and scrub.
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binz maybe? I cant remember
I remember mold killing paint that had a z in it
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Yes. Stain blocker. That doesnt block stains.
Let me say this again. Killz = garbage.
Bin is an excellent product when used properly. Putting it over mold is not properly.
Mold is NOT a stain. No primer is going to kill whats there. Some have mildewcides to help prevent it, but there is no primer that will kill whats there.
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Pittenger5
Oh and dont listen to a fucking word HGTV says. I see more false information on there than anywhere else.
why the fuck are you watching HGTV
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DBKromz
why the fuck are you watching HGTV
1. My parents watch it at dinner time now and again.
2. I like that "what can xxx dollars buy" show
3. I like to know what false information is being given so I have a response prepared for work the next day.
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ehhh fuck it
I just called and said no :o
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richie, i hear there's some good shows on Lifetime too
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DBKromz
richie, i hear there's some good shows on Lifetime too
You dont hear, you know. Cause you watch it, you fairy.
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Pittenger5
Yes. Stain blocker. That doesnt block stains.
Let me say this again. Killz = garbage.
Bin is an excellent product when used properly. Putting it over mold is not properly.
Mold is NOT a stain. No primer is going to kill whats there. Some have mildewcides to help prevent it, but there is no primer that will kill whats there.
A can't agree more, Killz = TOTAL SHIT!!!
If you are trying to get rid of the mold you'll need a couple days!!
1st spray it with a bleach/water mixture. (this will kill the mold and bleach the ceiling white again)
After it is dry then paint it.
On the ceiling I always use Gliddens ceiling paint that goes on pink and dries white. Makes it easy to see where you have been and compaired to Benjamin Moore's ceiling paint it covers much better.
I always use Benjamin Moore paint for the walls though, I only use Glidden for ceiling paint.
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Bleach and water doesnt kill everything, especially the spores that are left behind. Add some TSP in and it makes a world of difference.
The glidden pink/white shit is a total gimmick, which isnt a bad thing, but somethings being left out of the quality to give it this fun gimmick.
Also bear in mind every paint company has 5-6 different quality levels, if you use the best stuff, yah, theres problem nothing wrong. If you use the shit, thats what it is. Company doesnt matter. So to say I use Ben Moore, or Shermin Williams or PPG or whatever is leaving out 9/10s of the information.
You want my opinions on what to use, feel free to PM me. But A. dont argue with me, and B. dont bother if your mind is already set on something. I deal with this enough at work, I dont want to do it in my free time. But Im happy to help people that honestly want my opinions.
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Pittenger5
Bleach and water doesnt kill everything, especially the spores that are left behind. Add some TSP in and it makes a world of difference.
The glidden pink/white shit is a total gimmick, which isnt a bad thing, but somethings being left out of the quality to give it this fun gimmick.
Also bear in mind every paint company has 5-6 different quality levels, if you use the best stuff, yah, theres problem nothing wrong. If you use the shit, thats what it is. Company doesnt matter. So to say I use Ben Moore, or Shermin Williams or PPG or whatever is leaving out 9/10s of the information.
You want my opinions on what to use, feel free to PM me. But A. dont argue with me, and B. dont bother if your mind is already set on something. I deal with this enough at work, I dont want to do it in my free time. But Im happy to help people that honestly want my opinions.
HI, I bought paint from you and you said it was the good stuff. Well, long story short I painted my porch in an ice storm the other day and it looks horrible. I WILL NEVER SHOP AT YOUR STORE AGAIN YOU COCKNIBBLER:madfawk
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seth399
HI, I bought paint from you and you said it was the good stuff. Well, long story short I painted my porch in an ice storm the other day and it looks horrible. I WILL NEVER SHOP AT YOUR STORE AGAIN YOU COCKNIBBLER:madfawk
Good. Youre so ugly you scared away the other customers.
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Pittenger5
Good. Youre so ugly you scared away the other customers.
:immortal: