I cant take credit for this but its pretty cool to see. Watch both videos together to see the speed difference between F1 cars and sports cars in one of the best corners in the world. Eau Rouge
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=ht...rName=Not+Sure
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I cant take credit for this but its pretty cool to see. Watch both videos together to see the speed difference between F1 cars and sports cars in one of the best corners in the world. Eau Rouge
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=ht...rName=Not+Sure
Wing envy...
very cool
Awesome.
Any video of motorcycles racing through the same corner?
:shock::popcorn:
I found a classic bikes video from the same perspective - by comparison to the F1 cars they are standing still!
I'll never forget the times I saw F1 live - the sound is *nothing* like what comes through on TV/Video!
MotoGP/F1, Hangar straight, Silverstone.
http://youtubedoubler.com/?video1=ht...rName=gpearson
Is that MJ Fox holding the bike camera??Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer
It didn't look to be that substantial a difference, imo.
Meh....Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer
is this real? like i understand F1 is stupidly fast but isnt that vid speed up at all?
and i really dont understand that they are that much faster from Moto GP bikes too
this went around other forums a couple weeks back. nope, not sped up. F1 cars make huge horsepower and the aerodynamics and downforce make a huge impact on speed and grip.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsorfas
Once you know that an F1 car has enough downforce to drive upside down on the roof of a tunnel, you will begin to understand how they can stay that fast while cornering. They also have a drag co-effecient of pretty much nothing except the wing effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsorfas
That and a crazy motor that revs to the moon.
F1 engine test
oh i have studied a lot about F1 and i stopped watching a few years ago (pretty much when I moved here) because it just didnt seem interesting.
I understand the physics behind it I just dont understand how they are so much faster than GP bikes.
Cornerspeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsorfas
Then you don't understand the physics behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsorfas
800 hp and 2400 lbs of downforce, that's why they're so much faster
Fastest Lap for the 2011 British Grand Prix: Fernando Alonso, 1:34.908.
Fastest Lap for the 2011 British Motorcycle GP: Nicky Hayden: 2:21.432.
(Qualifying best laps were 1:30.399 and 2:02.020 respectively)
you sure you have those motorcycle times right? there's never a 19 second difference between qualifying and the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer
these are insane differences in speed..
it is incredible what the human body must be going through at this speeds..
http://www.motogp.com/en/events/Great+britain/2011 - it rained in the race, not in qualifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE
That is a substantial difference, I just couldn't see it in the video.
I remember years ago watching an F1 race, not sure where anymore I didn't follow it closely back then, but one of the commentators said about how fast the F1 cars were on that track. He stated something to the effect of These cars are running around here like motorcycles. One of the other, I assume more experienced, announcers scowled back with a Are you serious? There are turns here where the bikes are braking into and the Formula cars are accelerating through.
Not sure how long that duo lasted in the auto announcing world.
F1 and GP use different layouts at Silverstone since the remodeling, don't they?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer
Rain!Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR929RE
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by KawiSmurf
Those times are apples to oranges
Closest to F1 would be Indy Car. Whats the Indy lap record for the Loudon roadcourse? I think 1:02?
if i ever happen to even be in one (never mind driving it) i think i would die a very satisfied man lol
check the live graphic of a MotoGP race, they brake into a corner and are of course off the throttle, I doubt the F1 guys even slow up!! Yes- corner speed!!
Weird - the circuit maps for F1 and MotoGP on the silverstone website are identical - although the quoted length for MotoGP is .006 miles longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kazinator
Annoyingly I cant find the same comparison for the 2011 GP/MotoGP - the above is for 2012.
BBC seems to imply its the same layout used for both, and that identical layouts were used for the 2010 British Grand Prix (F1)
Hmm..I may be wrong then....but I am pretty sure 2011 were different....Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer
Yeah, it looks like they might actually be the same, I was under the impression F1 still used the old chicane at Abbey instead of turning to the infield. I didn't see the F1 race there, so I have no idea, I just assumed something like that would account for such a drastic difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer
Took a lot of searching but found this-Quote:
Originally Posted by Degsy
NHIS road course-
Typical Lap Times
Nissan 350Z stock with R tires 1:26
Porsche 993 cup ?:??
Spec Miata 1:16.479 Ken Payson
Dodge Viper ?:??
1969 camaro,ls6,6spd,r888 1:18.6
Formula Atlantic Ralt RT41 0:58.2 Paul LeCain
I would love to see a vid of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Degsy
Nope - both circuits are as far as I can find, 100% identical. Both MotoGP and F1 now make the right hander into the infield at Abbey. Bridge and farm straight no longer exist for either class, and according to the Silverstone site are not used in any circuit layout.Quote:
Originally Posted by KawiSmurf
whats the fastest lap by a motorcycle in NHMS?
To give an idea of the braking points, speed, and general lunacy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfPTh0oEO24
ahh now that makes senseQuote:
Originally Posted by Wanderer
That's wild!
Sports cars suck...I wonder how a aerial atom or ultima gtr fares...
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Pretty sure I saw Anthony Gobert break 1:10 there. Didn't mladin do a 109:xx also?Quote:
Originally Posted by tsorfas