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How to remove frozen axle

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle


    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    but which way was it crooked? i thought i was spinning on accel as well but it was actually decel dragging brake down rocky hills.
    Paul does not use brakes!

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    hmm, starting to suffer from this ... found corrosion on axle and spacers before Sun ride, i've never seen that before. rode through a few deep water crossings two rides before. crap. hadn't washed the bike so i know it was from those crossings.

    i'll clean up the axle and spacer for now, did it quickly Sat afternoon, but will prob upgrade to that SKF spacer/seal kit this winter.
    Mine got worse pretty quickly despite clean ups. It was expensive to replace all the parts. I would get the spacer kit ASAP. I think my issue is from wet sand destrying the seals in one ride or so...

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Mine got worse pretty quickly despite clean ups. It was expensive to replace all the parts. I would get the spacer kit ASAP. I think my issue is from wet sand destrying the seals in one ride or so...
    that's what i fear, quickly getting worse. the axle slid out fine but i can normally just smack it with a tight fist. the good thing is that i don't encounter deep crossings like that very often but i'm bummed the corrosion is now there. bitches.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Lol, me too! I went to swap wheels yesterday and she had rusted a smidge under the spacers/bearings.
    I gave a quick sand with some 220 and a healthy slather of phil wood and away I went.
    Hopefully this isn't a "thing", and I can just maintain my current status.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    no shit, hah! wet season maybe? it was dry as a bone Sun, didn't expect that.

    Phil Wood, had to look that up. so do you use their thin oil type of lube? i've been going dry, used to do thin layer of Maxima waterproof but stopped with this bike. maybe i should go back to that.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    nah, the green grease.
    Truth be told, I washed my 350 after the noble, and hadn't touched it until yesterday. Well, that part of it anyways...I had to cannibalize my stock seat to move the SeatConcepts stuff over, as somehow I'd cracked that plastic pan. (fat ass).

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    what if you polished the axl with some compound and a cloth wheel?

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Are you guys seeing similar to his picture on page 3? I just had my rear axle out after maybe 9 months and it had what I'd call some light surface rust. It looked a little worse than his picture though. Didn't require much effort to get out. Seemed like the 'normal' amount to me, and I didn't think much of it. Scrubbed most of it off with a scotchbrite pad. Forgot about this thread though and now I can't remember if I greased it before putting it back in.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Quote Originally Posted by aldend123 View Post
    Are you guys seeing similar to his picture on page 3? I just had my rear axle out after maybe 9 months and it had what I'd call some light surface rust. It looked a little worse than his picture though. Didn't require much effort to get out. Seemed like the 'normal' amount to me, and I didn't think much of it. Scrubbed most of it off with a scotchbrite pad. Forgot about this thread though and now I can't remember if I greased it before putting it back in.
    Like 1/8th that.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    Like 1/8th that.
    +1 . no where that far gone yet

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Same with mine... No where near that much rust. Since removing it the first time, I've always cleaned and greased the axle every time I have it out.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Got this in my email today. Titanium axles!

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Ok, so I moved away from the sand track and am riding in the woods. I went to clean my bike and the dirt actually comes off! Went to remove the axles and they slid right out! I also still have lots of life left in my sprocket and chain (I was going through them like chocolate before). Holy hell that sand/clay slurry I was riding in was tough on equipment. On a side note, I haven't ridden whoops in over a year. Hahaa. That was a serious proving ground for both me and the machine. I feel like I might have PTSD from training there.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Interesting. I would have guessed at the final drive wear, but sticky axles I wouldn't have seen coming.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Maybe something in the sand/clay slurry causing galvanic corrosion?

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky Mike View Post
    Maybe something in the sand/clay slurry causing galvanic corrosion?
    Definitely. I had to use emery cloth on the axle just to get it back IN without using a sledge hammer. PK just restored my Kawi and he asked what the hell I was riding in. He said it was like cement in every nook

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    With large washers and utilizing the axle nut can you turn it into a puller? Ot if it is a hollow axle a long threaded rod with a nut and some right sized washers stacked just right to make a puller? When you get it out with a set of v blocks and a dial indicator you will know if it was bent..old thread....where u at now?

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    I had to replace the axle. corrosion had started and could be cleaned up, but it would just happen again. My post is about how much less invasive regular dirt is. Axles come out easy peasy now that I don't live near the sand track.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    debating whether to put those special SKF seals on the 200 ... pretty sure they stopped making them which would mean it was a failed attempt. great idea though. sold the 250 before i could really determine if there was an improvement over standard seals. the hard ano spacers were trick though.

    i'm about to pull the wheels now that the season is over. fingers x'd i don't see blow by ... once the corrosion starts, the axles really do need to be replaced since they are no longer flat ... buffing doesn't get you much.

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Good old NE sand tracks through the woods

    Why the switch

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    Re: How to remove frozen axle

    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post
    Good old NE sand tracks through the woods

    Why the switch
    I moved. New spot has mountain trails.

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