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Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017


    Drills were basic. Braking. Accelerating. Wheelies. Then variations of go fast. Lock rear. Turn and then power out. All in an open field or in ruts or some other obstacle. There was 1/4 day about picking a line thru a tight trail. Not real helpful. Yes some could help but it wasn't a learn to go fast over New England trails. I'd pass now. But it was fun. Maybe flipped saw it different. There s a thread from last year where I gave a full review and some others chimed in

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Danny walker's flat track school in Delaware

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    Dalton Brisbois instructs at that one, I think Harlan does too. Dalton taught me a ton in 5 mins. A day or two would make a world's difference.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Mr. Numba9.... Cornerspin is going to happen in late March. Similar to the Supercamp flat track riding, only it's "feet up" / on the pegs drifting and none of that leg out business.

    Plus, we are putting together what will hopefully be a private school.... so... you know.... you should join (and any other NESR folks interested).

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Started a thread for interest in a Private, Cornerspin 2-day school in early spring (late March target).

    Chime in folks.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Drills were basic. Braking. Accelerating. Wheelies. Then variations of go fast. Lock rear. Turn and then power out. All in an open field or in ruts or some other obstacle. There was 1/4 day about picking a line thru a tight trail. Not real helpful. Yes some could help but it wasn't a learn to go fast over New England trails. I'd pass now. But it was fun. Maybe flipped saw it different. There s a thread from last year where I gave a full review and some others chimed in
    I felt it was geared to woods racing which kind of ties into mx as far as turns and such go. There where some good drills that I fel thelped me get more comfortable than I had been before. There was one drill I liked we where practicing with a log like cross rutting and riding it out. Good to see stuff he points out to as far as obstacles go. I would like to see how I do with the new bike over how it went with the kdx.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Sounds perfect to me as I lean towards MX, but do some woods. My schedule is out and I am free this weekend, so I'm very likely going to pull the trigger on this one.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Shane Watts has DVDs for sale too, anyone checked 'em out? Worthwhile?

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    yes on the DVDs, i have a few of them and have watched multiple times. def worthwhile.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Agreed. Have DVD, I do some of the drills regularly. Sounds like some of them are used in the class. I guess what I would hope to get out of the class might not be new ideas, but feedback on hoe to improve from where I am right now.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    So, I have another friend who did the school last year. He was not impressed. Lots of people riding over their heads and crashing a lot was his comment. Hmmm, that could be bad...or good. I'm more confused than ever about doing this.

    Here is a write up on Supercamp Lessons learned at American Supercamp - RevZilla
    I haven't heard any bad things about this school. Although instructors laughing at you for crashing sounds like an interesting teaching technique...

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Here is a write up on Supercamp Lessons learned at American Supercamp - RevZilla
    That does look/sound good.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    So, I have another friend who did the school last year. He was not impressed. Lots of people riding over their heads and crashing a lot was his comment. Hmmm, that could be bad...or good. I'm more confused than ever about doing this.
    man, super mixed reviews ... lotta dough if it's a waste ... hmmmmm

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by typeone View Post
    man, super mixed reviews ... lotta dough if it's a waste ... hmmmmm
    Yeah I'm not feelin it

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Did the super camp as well. It was a ton of fun. Did I get anything out of it from it for street. Not really. I wasn't backing in on any turns. I wasn't doing dirt then so no input. It was fun. It was also a heck of a drive from BWI. In the middle of nowhere

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Well, I know from my experience flat tracking and ice riding for recreation over the last 2 years that it is a skill set that indirectly applies to all performance disciplines. True, you might not be backing it in on pavement, but learning to push your braking zone all the way up to the apex, pivoting, and maxing your drive out can pay big dividends in speed on any type of track. On street at least you will gain confidence turning around in low traction scenarios, and also have some idea what to do if you do have a big slide.

    It would be fun to get some focused feedback on this technique even though I feel I already have the basics.

    And yes, the drive to the Eastern shore from anywhere is a commitment.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    The 'backing it in' / flat track instruction holds value to me for SM use. That said, I think the NEMM school is a solid, local source for this as well.
    Does WVRC do any class/instruction?

    Really, I'm most interested in something like this.


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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Fly him in. We will attend.

    Interesting side note regarding the slow vs fast discussion... to make that hill they were struggling with, he simply went twice as fast. LOL.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Although instructors laughing at you for crashing sounds like an interesting teaching technique...
    Aaron will laugh at you, yell, learn sign language just to screw with you, whatever it takes at the NEMM school. There are times you want to punch him square in the face, and then the lesson clicks and he's right there with the high five you're desperately seeking for pulling it off.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    I was tempted to bring up NEMM supermoto school. I feel like it helped my dirt riding a lot, as contrary as that might seem. It's also huge fun to learn an entirely different way to handle a motorcycle, which is something touched on by that revzilla review. There really are many ways to ride a motorcycle well.


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    ..he simply went twice as fast. LOL.
    Yes, simple as that. Nothing at all else to it. Balance. Clutch & throttle control. Line choice. Weighting and de-weighting. Overall traction management. None of these have anything at all to do with his success!

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Those other guys have been working on all that for years. Sometimes (let's say often) straight up speed is what is required.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    It's far from that simple. Even the two climbs in that video show that pretty clearly. But I'm done arguing this with you guys.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    I'm not arguing that he didn't need superior skill in all the areas you mentioned. But there is no argument he looked at the hill and attacked it twice as fast as the locals. I do not believe even he could conquer at the lower speed.

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    So, I have another friend who did the school last year. He was not impressed. Lots of people riding over their heads and crashing a lot was his comment. Hmmm, that could be bad...or good. I'm more confused than ever about doing this.
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    Was that Pariah??? KDX200?

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    hmmmm......

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    Quote Originally Posted by black View Post
    Was that Pariah??? KDX200?
    Yes,itwas

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    Re: Shane Watts DirtWise Academy - Wrentham April 27/28 2017

    good guy... we shared similar views

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    hmmmm......

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