Track bikes for large humans?

[TB151]

My S1000RR fits me perfectly at 6'1. My Daytona race bike on the other hand...I just can't get comfortable on. The tank is too damn skinny.

[Jayspeed]

I'd like to add to the 750 discussion. I hate the 750 comfort wise. My 07 1000 was much more fitting. Especially with Heli clipons. The 750 makes me feel like a giant. I'm 6'2".

[maxim_X]

Supermoto for comfort for large humans. Nothing else comes close.

[Garandman]

2016 for sale locally:

“s1000r with all options. dynamic package with heated grips, DDC dynamic damping control, change ride mode on the fly. Premium package with cruise control, ride mode pro, gear shift assistant, change gears without clutching. DTC dynamic traction control.”

Are the contents of these packages listed somewhere? I’ve heard that some of these electronic riding mode suspensions are extremely costly to maintain. True? Can you get one with electronic ride modes, but with standard suspension components?

[Chippertheripper]

That is probably a question best asked on Adv or your yankee beemers group. I don’t think anyone here owns one.

[nhbubba]

In my-admittedly limited-experience shopping BMWs, no, you cannot get machines without all the "premium packages" as dealers simply do not stock them. Seemed to be the case with all the R bikes I shopped. I've seen a couple 2nd hand non-local on CL or ADV-rider. But they were rare.

My opinion is that no dealer wants to stock anything but fully loaded bikes as I suspect those have the greatest margin.

[Garandman]

Want another track-focused bike but don’t think I can handle the riding position of the SuperSports. So started looking at some of these “Super Standards”: Honda CB1000R, Suzuki GSXS1000, Yamaha MT10, etc. as well as the “Single R.” These bikes all tend to have older gen liter bike motors and frames, pretty high spec suspensions and brakes, and for the last 3-4 years have traction control and ABS available.

I’ve learned the DDC package has electronically controlled damping. Ohlins makes an aftermarket shock compatible with the damping system, or you can disconnect it and the bike works fine without it: doesn’t even light the dash. So you can substitute a standard shock if you wish.

Sometimes life has a way of slapping you in the face. Called the guy about this BMW, and he was very enthusiastic about the bike. Asked why he was selling it: “I’ve been diagnosed with Lymphoma.” Damn.

[Jayspeed]

Want another track-focused bike but don’t think I can handle the riding position of the SuperSports. So started looking at some of these “Super Standards”: Honda CB1000R, Suzuki GSXS1000, Yamaha MT10, etc. as well as the “Single R.” These bikes all tend to have older gen liter bike motors and frames, pretty high spec suspensions and brakes, and for the last 3-4 years have traction control and ABS available.

I’ve learned the DDC package has electronically controlled damping. Ohlins makes an aftermarket shock compatible with the damping system, or you can disconnect it and the bike works fine without it: doesn’t even light the dash. So you can substitute a standard shock if you wish.


Sometimes life has a way of slapping you in the face. Called the guy about this BMW, and he was very enthusiastic about the bike. Asked why he was selling it: “I’ve been diagnosed with Lymphoma.” Damn.

I'd try out the gsxs1000 just because of the familiarity I'd have with it.

[Garandman]

OK, signed up for the S1000R site and got some more details on the DDC system. Doesn’t sound like it’s going to work for me.

Apparently the bike is set up for a roughly 190-200 lb rider. That’s more than most of the Japanese Bikes are set up for. But even at my lowest recent weight I’m at least 240 in riding gear.

The issue is there are only a few replacement springs to work with the DDC forks - and none for the rear shocks. None of the manufacturers believe there will enough Market to justify the investment.

This guy is about 210, and said this is hard but not max braking. And the bike has linked brakes which is supposed to minimize the pitch change.



Apparently the DDC algorithm is designed for a fairly narrow weight range, and BMW won’t increase it and won’t release the firmware so that aftermarket tuners could do so.

Maybe instead of calling Rotella to see what bike they recommend, I will call PK and ask what to bring him.

[nhbubba]

PK rides a gen 2 SV with k-tech bits all over it, FWIW

[Garandman]

Went to Parkway today to test sit some sport bikes. The salesman told me repeatedly “He was a racer.” As he was very overweight, this surprised me, so I asked, “Where do you race?”

“Wherever I can, like the Blue Hills at 1am.” The road through Blue Hills is closed sunset to sunrise, but you can easily get around the gate on a bike. He also told me that not only can he drag a knee on public roads, he can drag an elbow!

Suddenly buying used seems appealing.

[maxim_X]

Went to Parkway today to test sit some sport bikes. The salesman told me repeatedly “He was a racer.” As he was very overweight, this surprised me, so I asked, “Where do you race?”

“Wherever I can, like the Blue Hills at 1am.” The road through Blue Hills is closed sunset to sunrise, but you can easily get around the gate on a bike. He also told me that not only can he drag a knee on public roads, he can drag an elbow!

Whoa? Blue Hills fastest? Some say he can drag his entire body through a turn.

[loudbeard]

Went to Parkway today to test sit some sport bikes. The salesman told me repeatedly “He was a racer.” As he was very overweight, this surprised me, so I asked, “Where do you race?”

“Wherever I can, like the Blue Hills at 1am.” The road through Blue Hills is closed sunset to sunrise, but you can easily get around the gate on a bike. He also told me that not only can he drag a knee on public roads, he can drag an elbow!

Suddenly buying used seems appealing.

Well I’m curious. Since you found a salesman with such irreproachable credibility, what motorcycle did you purchase from him?

[Paul_E_D]

Never ceases to amaze me that these are the people working in the industry.

[loudbeard]

Never ceases to amaze me that these are the people working in the industry.

Can be said for any industry. This one in particular? It turns out that long hours in exchange for low wages doesn’t exactly attract the best and the brightest.

[Paul_E_D]

That's for sure!

[Garandman]

So, talked to someone who also had knee replacement and is pretty big. His comments.

1. “All the sportbikes are nearly the same riding position, give or take an inch. Pick one.”
2. “Do the same stuff you did to your SV - lower pegs, higher seat.”
3. “Get in shape and do more PT, you aren’t that tall.”

Within couple of days I’v been able to get another 10° knee bend.

Looked at Cycle-Ergo and he’s pretty much right. Forward lean/ Knee Angle / Hip Angle, newest models listed.

GSXR 1000 - 39, 71, 53.
GSXR 750 - 37, 69, 56.
CB1000RR - 39, 70, 52.
R1 - 39, 72, 58.
S1000RR - 38, 69, 57.
SV650S - 31, 69, 61.

[Garandman]

Well I’m curious. Since you found a salesman with such irreproachable credibility, what motorcycle did you purchase from him?

Ran screaming from the store and bought a private sale bike.

[Garandman]

One of the Bikes Im interested inis a GSXR750 so I Registered at gixxer.com. Pure gold.

I have a question as i can see Bike is Much more faster and can feel acceleration at night than day. Whats the reason ? I mean at night temperature is lower and thats reason but . I am asking faster becouse that farenheits in cooling system is lower ? Or becouse of AFR or whats the reason ?

[Garandman]

Lowered pegs for a Hayabusa fit a GSX-R750.

[Jayspeed]

Lowered pegs for a Hayabusa fit a GSX-R750.

If you are seriously interested in a 750, and are looking for one that is used and mostly stock, you can check out mine. The past week or 2 I've been reeling on trading it in for a liter bike. If you have bad knees, well its like being on any sport bike. I think I have my pegs set highest they go(stock).

[Garandman]

Thanks, but I bought a 2016 last week. It’s going to PK Monday.

[gixxer72]

Thanks, but I bought a 2016 last week. It’s going to PK Monday.

YOU bought a gixxah??? That’s got to be a sign of the apocalypse.

[Garandman]

YOU bought a gixxah??? That’s got to be a sign of the apocalypse.

Have we ever met? I live in Dorchester, gotta fit in.

What a sweet bike. The stock suspension is pretty nice, the power is insane. I will definitely not use all the power, at least for a while. Trying to get to the TTD NYST Days.

[gixxer72]

Have we ever met? I live in Dorchester, gotta fit in.

What a sweet bike. The stock suspension is pretty nice, the power is insane. I will definitely not use all the power, at least for a while. Trying to get to the TTD NYST Days.

Congrats, enjoy it!