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    Great pix. Thanks guys!!!

    It's fun re-living the experience. The freight train pictures are particularly fun to see.

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    Tell that damn intarweb to upload fasterer!

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    Originally posted by HBerry
    Tell that damn intarweb to upload fasterer!
    C'mon man, it's uploading as fast as you can ride

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    Good one good one

    You crashed at VIR last year

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    After looking at my photos... I'm going to work more on hanging off.

    I never was a big knee dragger... usually just use it to find the limit and then I pull it back up... but I could definitely use a little more.

    It's odd to see photos of people that I'm going faster than... but they have their knee on the ground and mine is not even close.


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    Alex has the "fastest" looking body position.

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    Knee dragging is a weird issue to me.
    I've planted me knee of some laps that were not so fast and then I've gone 2 seconds faster and never really used my knee as much. (I'm referring to loudon)

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    Yeah... same here.

    I'm looking forward to some more "experimenting" this year.

    Been reading a lot of books about riding... it will be fun to test some of the ideas.

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    i had an awesome time!! the freight train with tony, alex, and ken was fun. really helped my lines and cornerspeed too

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    Originally posted by hessogood
    didn't get much for pictures

    http://s7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...od/VIR%202006/
    nazo took some nice shots of me burnin past the oak tree--especially the one of me flippin him off with Peter Kates on my ass! Lucky for Kates I didn't know he was there which gave that old fart a better drive onto the straight enabling him to pass me--

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    I love dragging knees. It really gives me a level of feedback that tells me where I am in reference to speed and reference points. I usually touch down in the same place each time. An example is, if I want to turn quicker, I look to touch down earlier.

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    Originally posted by 35racer
    After looking at my photos... I'm going to work more on hanging off.

    I never was a big knee dragger... usually just use it to find the limit and then I pull it back up... but I could definitely use a little more.

    It's odd to see photos of people that I'm going faster than... but they have their knee on the ground and mine is not even close.

    Reading this makes me feel better because I feel the same way. I look at pictures of me riding and I don't look like I'm hanging off much at all, but at the time it felt like I was. I can't even get my knee down to find out where the limit is. I definitely want to work on body position too.

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    as time as gone on, i have found myself not sticking my knee out as much, but I still feel like i'm getting quicker

    i always fight with myself about my body position, if its ok, if it is allowing me to have optimal Center of Gravity for the best traction and the great lean angles.

    i feel comfortable out there so maybe its ok ... who knows

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    another part of body position I'd like to experiment with is not only moving side to side on the bike but front to back. maybe sliding back on the seat sometimes might lend more traction to the rear and vise versa. I got this idea from the movie Faster when Kevin Shwantz was talking aobut the difference a rider can make on the handling of a motorcycle ( I watched it again last night ). On the other hand, books like TWOTW2 by Kieth Code recommend not moving around too much front to back.

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    yeah, moving back is bad ... the design of the bike and what it wants for weight distribution, keeping you nuts pressed agaist the tank is what you want

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    Thanks for the comments.

    I'm pretty huge on body positioning. I've spent HOURS analyzing photos of top-level riders (LRRS, AMA, MotoGP) and how they sit on the bike. Over the course of the past year I've fanatically critiqued my style and modified it to match what I've observered as 'proper' style. As a matter of fact that's the first thing I looked at when I opened Saxman's link Always a work in progress.

    Yes I know there are exceptions to every rule. However there is definately a Majority Style going on in roadracing.

    Perhaps this is because I come from sports where you are judged constantly by your style. If you do a trick on your bike / board that looks like crap, you get no respect for it. Heh.

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    there is such diversity in pro racing though as far as body positions go ... from what I have seen anyway

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    I've gone over my theory on this previously. http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...threadid=18611

    Works for me. Find out what works for you.


    edit: Oh yea, just because knee touches doesn't mean you stop leaning. As Ken said, it's a feeler gauge letting you know how much lean angle you have left. Not going to make corner, lean over more. Riding Pete's ZX... stop leaning when knee touches immediately

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    all the north course pictures are finally up

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    edit: BALEEETED

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    whats that sound??


    oh, its just pete talking again ...

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    FINE! Be that way & scroll up, fucker

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    Originally posted by s a x m a n
    yeah, moving back is bad ... the design of the bike and what it wants for weight distribution, keeping you nuts pressed agaist the tank is what you want
    I don't buy that---I slide back exiting a corner + I get some serious grip allowing me to really power out of the turn! ?

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    Yeah... sliding back as you straighten the bike is not bad and can certainly help with rear wheel traction.

    I slide back more for positioning... to allow me to tuck better down a straight.

    However, we do see a lot of people staying back on the seat when cornering... and we try to discourage this.

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    I try to stay as forward as possible accelerating and coming out of the corners to keep the front wheel on the ground. Something I've been working on recently.

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