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I demo'd the Hyperstrada. All respect to Paul, but that thing is neither a sport tourer or an adventure toy. It is huge fun. It is fast. And it does handle great. And the sounds are glorious! But it is much more like a big-boy, triple digit supermoto for the road than any of those. Would not want to tour on that seat. Aftermarket touring gear support is not that good.
I lust for an 1190.
1190 "Adventure S" is a 19/17 wheel'ed adventure styled sport tourer with computer controlled suspension, all the latest computer bits (TC, ABS, yadda yadda) and a shitload of power. (Something like 140 crank.) Ergonomics are nice and comfortable, although the bike is tall and somewhat top heavy.
1190 ADV-R is an overgrown dirt-bike wannabee. One of the few on this list that could actually be class 6 road worthy. But it is tall and heavy and expensive as sin.
Known issues include enormous amounts of heat off that super-bike engine on your thighs and butt. MY16 bikes have a "fix" that is a dinky little bit of plastic. Aftermarket has (arguably better) fixes for earlier machines. Also the air box is somewhat infamous for leaking dust and dirt into the intakes. Recommended fix is an aftermarket air cleaner with a gasket around the cover and possibly adding a pre-filter as well. Accessories and parts are not cheap. Many reports of long lead times with parts. Dealer network is not as comprehensive as asian brands. Reliability is widely considered at least as good as the rest. Components are top notch; hard to do better. Their road bikes do not sell well extraordinarily here in New England. My local guy claims he barely moves them; he is mostly a dirt shop.
I have a 990adventure.
It's kind of quirky, but it does anything I think I'd ever need for a street bike.
I have actually ridden it on c6 roads (that's what he's talking about, right Colin?), and it did fine, although I need stiffer fork springs to do it again, and really rip it up.
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The 1190 Adventure is just so tempting. 140HP v-twin, 500lb adventure bike? Yes please.
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🇯🇵 2001 Honda CBR 929RR R.I.P
🇯🇵 2009 Honda CRF 250X
🇯🇵 2013 Kawasaki Ninja ZX636R
🇦🇹 2016 KTM 1190 Adventure-S
You got my color.
Do you mind telling me how much you paid and what accessories you got with it?
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I'll put in another vote for a Tiger 800 (I'd recommend XCx).
Given what you say about mostly riding on the road, I'd stay away from the Africa Twin. Keep in mind it's the most dirt-oriented of any of these bikes; it reportedly matches the KTM 1190 Adventure R (the 21"/18" wheel version) in the dirt, and the compromise for the more serious offroad performance is that apparently it's not as comfortable on pavement as any of these other bikes will be. Also, getting one won't be easy for a while yet -- lots of people have put down deposits, myself included, and the earthquake last week in Japan shut down the factory where ATs are being made. I wouldn't be surprised if even those of us who've had money down for months end up not getting bikes.
I can tell you from 87,000 miles of experience that the Tiger is absolutely awesome on the road, and it does really well when the pavement ends too. The 21" front wheel doesn't give up anything in the handling department, but it does make the bike roll over shitty New England roads smoother. And it tracks a lot better in the dirt and gravel than the 19" front on many of these other bikes does.
Another option, of course, would be to find a well-kept older Tiger 800 XC for under $10k and put a little money into accessories.
--mark
'20 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro / '19 Triumph Scrambler 1200 XE / '11 Triumph Tiger 800 XC / '01 Triumph Bonneville cafe
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In my experience, more NH class 6 roads are like Chip is thinking of then what Randy shows. Maybe it's complicated by the fact that most of us are busy paddling our 500+ lbs monsters through the muddy ruts to stop in the slop and take a photo. The roads we (chip, mark) hit in western NH were rockier and drier than what I'm used to on this side of the state. Nearly everything here seems to be heavily rutted from kids with 4x4's and ATVs, unless maintained by a landowner. An innocent looking mud hole can easily swallow a bike whole. (Right Mark?!)
The muddy, rutted crap is not my idea of fun. Especially on a big bike. When I see that crap with the 'strom I turn around. Hell, I usually turn the DRZ around with that crap.
But then with these roads no two are alike. The term is probably very relative.
I recently saw a guy shoot Stark Pond loop @ Clough OHV area on a 990 ADV.
I would probably not do that myself on an 1190-S, maybe on an -R.
I sure as hell wouldn't do it on my V-Strom.
The C6 roads around this area are what chip is thinking of too. You can tell they were roads at one time or another, but they're gnarly as hell now. Last one I took my Jeep on I bottomed out several times due to ruts, that's not to mention the 3 foot rock ledge we had to climb over. Another one I smacked my diff off a boulder in the middle of the "road", a road that also happened to be an active stream bed.
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2023 KTM 890 Adventure R
Cliff's Cycles KTM
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Close your eyes, look deep in your soul, step outside yourself and let your mind go.
Cliff's Cycles KTM
NETRA enduro B-vet
Close your eyes, look deep in your soul, step outside yourself and let your mind go.
2021 KTM Duke 890 R
2016 BMW S1000XR
1982 Honda CB750F Super Sport
I'm not too concerned about dealer network being in Keene. There are literally no dealers of any kind within a 45 min drive.
2023 KTM 890 Adventure R