I Need a Bike

[JeffL]

Get a Ninja 250, or maybe a dirtbike.

[Sirkbac]

Odds are you will outgrow a 250cc, but you can get them used and sell them for what you paid or more if you find a deal. EX500,GS500E or F, SV650 or SV650S would all be better bikes to start with and stay on for a few years. Even the little 250 is going to be faster than you. People think the only way to get fast is ride a faster bike. But the fast guy on the 250 will usually show up the unskilled guy on the 600.

[OreoGaborio]

Originally posted by Honclfibr
Whoah guys, lay off the man, he knows about the R1. And after all Yamaha has done to keep it a secret. You're the real deal kid. Drop a few other names, show us your stuff.

Darrrelll, such a kidder it's the R6 they're keeping under wraps, everyone has an R1

D.D. (can I call you "D.D."? it's just so much more..... respectable than "DrunkDriver")... I totally understand your viewpoint on your attitude or lack there-of... I thought the same thing when i was in HS... but it's the nature of the beast, when you're that age, it's who you are, whether your realize it or not. Sure JeffL didn't take the best approach, but your comment about him being "tough shit" showed that AT TIMES (few & far between as they may be) sometimes you are what you say you aren't.

Now I'll say it again cuz i can't stress it enough... reguardless of age, attitude, maturity level etc, what Clayton & I have pointed out to you is VERY true for any new rider. You CAN have a "Learner bike" that will both be easy to learn on and tough to "outgrow". I'll use my bike as an example again... 2000 zx6r. carburreted, around 97hp, 40ft/lbs of torque or so. keep it below 5k rpm's and she's a kitten... spin it to 7k and she's got juice, 12k and now we're havin fun. First time at the track i probably turned a 1:50 lap time (that's a guess) and thought i was good... now i'm turnin sub 1:30's and I feel like i'm floggin the thing... well the truth of it is, w/ the right rider my bike can easly turn a sub 1:20 the way it's set up and there's no way i'll do that anytime soon.

As for the bike you want, for now, you might have to throw some of the characteristics you desire in your new bike out the window... an 8 THOUSAND DOLLAR 750cc Motorcycle is FAR from what you want as your first motorcycle.... that's comparable to going out & buying a 50 thousand dollar 350hp rear wheel drive car as your first set of wheels.... not the easiest thing to learn on, nor the most practical.

The best way to go about learning how to ride and ride well is to first admit to yourself and your peers that you know nothing, want to learn all that you can and ACTUALLY GIVE SOME THOUGHT to what we say. Don't throw it out the window. If you ask for advice here, you have to realize that you're gonna get the truth and we're telling you things for a reason. All of us here (Yes, including JeffL) have motorcycling experience. We were all at the point you're at now and believe it or not, a few of the members here even have more experience than you will ever dream of getting.


And no... i wouldn't suggest a Ninja 250.... that's a girl's bike

[Manny]

Originally posted by OreoGaborio
Darrrelll, such a kidder it's the R6 they're keeping under wraps, everyone has an R1

D.D. (can I call you "D.D."? it's just so much more..... respectable than "DrunkDriver")... I totally understand your viewpoint on your attitude or lack there-of... I thought the same thing when i was in HS... but it's the nature of the beast, when you're that age, it's who you are, whether your realize it or not. Sure JeffL didn't take the best approach, but your comment about him being "tough shit" showed that AT TIMES (few & far between as they may be) sometimes you are what you say you aren't.

Now I'll say it again cuz i can't stress it enough... reguardless of age, attitude, maturity level etc, what Clayton & I have pointed out to you is VERY true for any new rider. You CAN have a "Learner bike" that will both be easy to learn on and tough to "outgrow". I'll use my bike as an example again... 2000 zx6r. carburreted, around 97hp, 40ft/lbs of torque or so. keep it below 5k rpm's and she's a kitten... spin it to 7k and she's got juice, 12k and now we're havin fun. First time at the track i probably turned a 1:50 lap time (that's a guess) and thought i was good... now i'm turnin sub 1:30's and I feel like i'm floggin the thing... well the truth of it is, w/ the right rider my bike can easly turn a sub 1:20 the way it's set up and there's no way i'll do that anytime soon.

As for the bike you want, for now, you might have to throw some of the characteristics you desire in your new bike out the window... an 8 THOUSAND DOLLAR 750cc Motorcycle is FAR from what you want as your first motorcycle.... that's comparable to going out & buying a 50 thousand dollar 350hp rear wheel drive car as your first set of wheels.... not the easiest thing to learn on, nor the most practical.

The best way to go about learning how to ride and ride well is to first admit to yourself and your peers that you know nothing, want to learn all that you can and ACTUALLY GIVE SOME THOUGHT to what we say. Don't throw it out the window. If you ask for advice here, you have to realize that you're gonna get the truth and we're telling you things for a reason. All of us here (Yes, including JeffL) have motorcycling experience. We were all at the point you're at now and believe it or not, a few of the members here even have more experience than you will ever dream of getting.


And no... i wouldn't suggest a Ninja 250.... that's a girl's bike

Pete - you have much knowledge.

BTW how ya been? I been layin low since the whole stalker thingy....

[OreoGaborio]

Originally posted by Manny
Pete - you have much knowledge.

BTW how ya been? I been layin low since the whole stalker thingy....

????

oh u mean when you showed up unexpectedly at my WORKPLACE? been good bro

[FazerChic]

Originally posted by OreoGaborio
And no... i wouldn't suggest a Ninja 250.... that's a girl's bike

Why did I know that comment was coming!?

I'm a girl, and even I wouldn't recommend the 250. That's practically a moped.

[SEVENSGT]

Originally posted by DrunkDriver
I figured you would say 'get a Ninja 250' or a dirt bike so I said nothing I would get board with. Though, you are still going to say I am not going to outgrow a 250, right?

listen kid, cause in reality that's what you are, and yes you are 'young, dumb and full of cum', look at something smallewr then a 750, unless you're talking about a twin, 1 word SV650S it'll beat the shit outta you.





now before you post I am an Asshole for talking to you like this, I'll tell ya go fuck your self, unless you don't think I'm an A hole then welcome you buck

[Proulx06]

Why do I feel like this is someone's alter ego...

[OreoGaborio]

oh & one more thing, since i'm at work w/ nothin better to do but post on here... expect to spend another 500 bucks on gear. Helmet, Gloves, Jacket at the minimum. Mesh keeps you plenty cool if it's "too hot for gear". Hiking/work boots & Jeans will be alright for now.

Road rash is not a pleasant thing, even a get-off at 10mph, it's the gift that keeps on giving.... for months....

[LowSider]

I know. sweat wipes off, road rash doesnt.

I already have a jacket and boots, it's a start.

I'll take a look at the SV650S.



I only said $8000 as the top. If I don't need to spend that much, even better.

[ZX-12R]

The 250 Ninja is a fun motorcycle. You can flog the shit out of it and not be breaking the law! You can also get them damn low in the corners. The only thing I don't like about them is their lack of power in traffic. The one advantage a motorcycle has over cars in heavy traffic is its maneuverability. The 250's turn left, turn right, and stop very well but their acceleration (especially with someone my size piloting) leaves a lot to be desired and not being able to accelerate quickly on a motorcycle in traffic is flat out dangerous in my book.


To avoid continued hijack attempts, if you want a new motorcycle that won't break the bank, also consider the ZZR600 ($7,299 MSRP) and Z750S ($7,099 MSRP) from Kawasaki. Both would work well as a starter bike that you will not get bored with once you know what you are doing.

[Manny]

Originally posted by DrunkDriver
I want something a little less common.

Check out the Triumph Speed Four. Not making em next year and if you can find one you can prolly get a decent deal on it. Its not an ideal first bike but its better then what a lot of ppl choose.

[TheIglu]

Well, that's all there is to it. You are buying an SV650 or SV650S. You may as well just change your name right now to "IGotAnSVCauseNESRSaidSo".

I rode one last weekend. They are PLENTY powerful, have the wonderful V-Twin sound when allowed to breath a bit and handle like they are on rails. Cheap to buy, cheap to maintain, cheap to fix, EASY to fix (changed a lower triple tree in less than 4 hours last weekend, including 1 hour to go to Autozone to get bearing grease for the steering head), parts/hopups are plentiful and insurance is CHEAP.

Where is SVRACER when you need him???

Seriously, it's a great bike. I am thinking about getting one as a second bike and I have a 1200 as my regular bike. That says something about them pesky little SV's.....

[ZX-12R]

Originally posted by TheIglu
I rode one last weekend. They are PLENTY powerful...

Seriously, it's a great bike. I am thinking about getting one as a second bike and I have a 1200 as my regular bike. That says something about them pesky little SV's.....

It must be nice weighing all of a buck-twenty soaking wet! :

[Rhonda66]

Originally posted by OreoGaborio

And no... i wouldn't suggest a Ninja 250.... that's a girl's bike

I have one and you all know how I feel about it already. Yes, a great learner bike, but yeah, not a whole ton of power. It depends on each rider's skills, but I kinda wish I had at least gone with the 500 Ninja and maybe I'd still be happy with it. I'm going with the GSXR 600 for my next bike and hopefully I'll actually find one soon (Bara, we went by the Wareham dealership 2 weeks ago on a Sunday and they were closed ). I don't care how common the GSXR is - its got the power and the look I want. Go with the Gixxer!!!

[LowSider]

Originally posted by Rhonda66
I have one and you all know how I feel about it already. Yes, a great learner bike, but yeah, not a whole ton of power. It depends on each rider's skills, but I kinda wish I had at least gone with the 500 Ninja and maybe I'd still be happy with it. I'm going with the GSXR 600 for my next bike and hopefully I'll actually find one soon (Bara, we went by the Wareham dealership 2 weeks ago on a Sunday and they were closed ). I don't care how common the GSXR is - its got the power and the look I want. Go with the Gixxer!!!

See, I don't want that to happen to me.

[LowSider]

I am almost sold....


Every one mentioned a lota bikes in need to consider:

SV650
SV650S
CBR F2
CBR F3
ZX6R
YZF600R
ZZR600
Z750S

Thats the list so far.

[RandyO]

Originally posted by DrunkDriver
I figured you would say 'get a Ninja 250' or a dirt bike so I said nothing I would get board with. Though, you are still going to say I am not going to outgrow a 250, right?

hasn't been suggested yet, you want something different, get a supermotard, a Suzuki DRZ400SM would be an awesome bike in the 6k price range, a KTM supermotard would be a little more, but also a little more power and a few pounds lighter

[RandyO]

Originally posted by OreoGaborio
:
And no... i wouldn't suggest a Ninja 250.... that's a girl's bike

SV's are known to be girlie bikes too, ant they certianly ain't "something different"

[OreoGaborio]

in order of price (depending on condition and age of course), least to most expensive it'll be somewhere allong the lines of:

F2
F3
YSF600R
SV650
zx6r (depending on year. go for a 98-02 for 3 - 4 g's)
SV650S
Z750S
ZZR600 (this is basically a new updated version the older zx6's, the latest being an updated version of my bike)

Bottom line is, there's a ton of bikes out there, alot more than in this list, other than a brand new GSXR 600 that'll be just as fun, easier to learn on, won't kill you as fast & most importantly, easier on the wallet.

[mzdagrl]

Alright, here I go with my $.02. First of all, welcome to the site. I will tell you flat out to NOT GET THE NINJA 250!!! I had one for all of 3 motnhs and I was sick of it. And yes it is a girl's bike, yes I am a girl, and no I didn't get into motorcycling for the speed. So sick that I went out and bought an '05 SV650S. Great bike. I would even go so far as to say if maneuvers better than the 250 (maybe not in race-land, but in traffic and shit). Great acceleration (although be careful or you WILL bring the front up...oops ), great turning capabilities, light enough so you dont feel like you're driving a car with two wheels like a 1K, and heavy enough so you don't feel like you're driving a huffy...I mean, 250. I know plenty of people who have learned on 600s and been fine with them - not outgrown them. The moral of the story is, as long as you have the intention to have fun with your shit, you will have fun no matter what your shit is.

[LowSider]

Can I do something about the break lights and plate bracket on the SV650S? I really don't like it. The rake seems kind of big too.

[mzdagrl]

There is so much you can get for these things aftermarket. I haven't even really been looking (a little light in thewallet after the purchase and all...since it was 2 weeks ago), but I already have the full fairings on order and I'm working on finding a fender eliminator kit (yes, that thing in the back is fucking ugly). As for the rest, I'm sure you can do pretty much anything to it.

And it may be a "girlie" bike to some of these guys, but it is just as hot with a guy on it as it is with a girl on it, IMO.

[ChrisNoF4i]

Originally posted by Proulx06
Why do I feel like this is someone's alter ego...

Someone is playing puppet-master.

[rg500]

I had an sv as my first bike. It was a great all around bike.Although it was one of the older carbuerated ones. I loved it and regret ever selling it. I would love to have it as a trackday bike.

As for the drz, and supermotards in general, I am a huge fan. However there are a few things to comsider when going that route. They are great for tight twisty areas, around town it would be hard to find a better bike. If you are going to be doing much highway cruising you would probably want to look elsewhere. They are a great learning bike light, agile, forgiving, a friendly powerband, crash well, and are cheap to fix. The best part about them is they can also be really fast through the corners and a lot of fun.

- Mike Green