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Harley announces adventure bike, naked bike and potentially a sport bike

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    Re: Harley announces adventure bike, naked bike and potentially a sport bike


    Quote Originally Posted by hawk View Post
    Why don't they just put their efforts into making touring bikes with quality suspensions and frames that can actually be ridden. I had a street glide for a while. It did everything right as far as wind control and with some minor changes I made it very comfortable. What it lacked was a frame and suspension that would allow me to push it and have some, shall we say elevated fun. Also why does a motorcycle still need to vibrate like that at a stop light. They know how to make a balanced motor why not put it in everything. People are changing but they still want a good touring bike. Instead of continuing to make traditional ones. Make ones with traditional styling but bring in today's technology and make a bike to rival the goldwing in capability, make it 200lbs lighter and I would bet they would have a winner.
    I tried to make a Roadster into a motorcycle. HD uses the absolute cheapest Showa OEM suspension components. But the show stopper was engine case width.

    In the end I had to strip all the aftermarket stuff off to sell it.

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    Re: Harley announces adventure bike, naked bike and potentially a sport bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    More than nobody.
    There’s whole clans of hipsters with clapped out Harley’s and mild chops running around out there pretending to be having fun. Granted, not a one of them is buying a soft tail rocker model, but still, people under 40 are riding cruisers.
    The girl and I rode the bicycles to Plum Island. Some guy on a clapped out sporty had a tshirt on that says "no one gives a fuck about your bagger". They're starting to eat each other.

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    Good shirt, lol

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    Once they start selling them I'll ride and make up my mind then. I care about how the machine rides, and ultimately how much it costs. I put a over a thousand miles on a Softail I rented in Vegas. Decent ergonomics, rode well enough for a cruiser, but I didn't like the transmission. My '86 Yamaha shifted nicer. As for brand, I could care less whether it's Harley, Triumph, Kawasaki or Royal Enfield.

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    Re: Harley announces adventure bike, naked bike and potentially a sport bike

    All I want out of a cruiser is:
    - Virago 1100 geometry
    - fuel injection
    - cruise control
    - modern suspension and brakes
    - remote preload adjustment on the rear
    - weighs less than 500lbs

    AFAIK this doesn't exist and isn't on anyone's horizon, but I would love to be informed otherwise.

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    Re: Harley announces adventure bike, naked bike and potentially a sport bike

    Quote Originally Posted by feralchimp View Post
    All I want out of a cruiser is:
    - Virago 1100 geometry
    - fuel injection
    - cruise control
    - modern suspension and brakes
    - remote preload adjustment on the rear
    - weighs less than 500lbs

    AFAIK this doesn't exist and isn't on anyone's horizon, but I would love to be informed otherwise.
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    Re: Harley announces adventure bike, naked bike and potentially a sport bike

    I just bought a 99 Super Glide. It's a total piece of shit and the suspension is absolutely horrible. The funny part is that's why I like it. The one thing Harley has nailed is character. I have no intentions of riding more than a couple hours at a time. For long rides I'll be finding a sport touring bike in a few years. I have a 3 and 5 year old so right now I just don't have time for that. In the meantime the Super Glide fits the bill nicely because it's fun.

    I once met a pilot who flew fighter planes in the air force. He was since retired and owned a P51 Mustang (WWII plane). He said that out of all the aircraft he had flown it was his favorite. He pointed out that he had flown much "nicer" aircraft, but the character of the Mustang is what captured him. The Super Glide is my P51 Mustang.

    I'm not saying they don't need to change. I think they should build off of what they have. They need to evolve without losing their identity. That being said, my guess is the adventure and streetfighter approach may not pan out so well.

    Full disclosure...I used to rag on Harley's bigtime. After spending some time on one, I started to "get it" and now I own one.

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    Re: Harley announces adventure bike, naked bike and potentially a sport bike

    Quote Originally Posted by feralchimp View Post
    All I want out of a cruiser is:
    - Virago 1100 geometry
    - fuel injection
    - cruise control
    - modern suspension and brakes
    - remote preload adjustment on the rear
    - weighs less than 500lbs

    AFAIK this doesn't exist and isn't on anyone's horizon, but I would love to be informed otherwise.
    NOT AT ALL!

    The cruiser market buyers believe there is no replacement for displacement. Hell, most boomers seem to believe this. And I argue most cruiser/tourer buyers are currently boomers. (That's going to change soon, and I think HD recognizes that.) But in the meantime all the big-boy-bikes are way >1000cc. Because those buyers believe anything under 1k is a "toy". And with that comes >500lbs.

    Anything under 500lbs is going to be de-contented and targeted to the "budget" buyer. I don't know about ergonomics. But the Kawi Vulcan S ticks some of your boxes. It's a Ninja 650 twin, recamed and jammed in a cruiser-ish package. My buddys wife just bought one and he claims it is pretty neat. Arguably out performs his Star 1100 (or is it a 1400?). But you'll never find high-end touring options like cruise on a machine like that. No way. They need reasons to push buyers into their higher dollar offerings.

    This is true in every segment. ADV-ers are the same. Some reversal of that recently. See the BMW 850GS, now available with cruise (for extra $) and all the fixings. Interested to see what that does to 1200GS sales. Triumph Tiger 800 x models too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSR6 View Post
    I just bought a 99 Super Glide. ...

    Full disclosure...I used to rag on Harley's bigtime. After spending some time on one, I started to "get it" and now I own one.
    My entire sport bike riding crew used to make fun of Harleys and Cruisers in general. A decade later, of the people who still ride most ride cruisers, some ride the very Harleys we used to make fun of.

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