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    Maine bike with no title transferring to NH


    This Grom purchase has turned into a massive headache. I bought it in Maine, where they don't title vehicles 300cc and under. In order to get a title in NH, it requires a notarized bill of sale, a certified previous registration and a form 19 (i.e. inspection by state police for VIN verification). I have a bill of sale, but its not notarized. I really don't feel like driving back up to Maine, and the guy who sold it to me is extremely hard to get ahold of. I doubt I'll be able to get ahold of all of this stuff in any reasonable amount of time.

    So I'm now considering going to VT route, i.e. get it titled in VT which is a little easier and doesn't require a previous registration, then transferring it over to NH. The only problem is the notarized bill of sale portion.

    Anyone have any suggestions on how to get around that part to make this easy?

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Step 1: Don't call everyone here homo's.

    Step 2: Reg it in VT. Super easy.


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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Obligatory NESR Lowball Offer:


    I'll give you $500 to take the problem Grom off your hands.


    Just joking. Good luck getting it taken care of.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    What happens if you sell it to a friend/family member, then sell it back to yourself and notarize that one?

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Quote Originally Posted by aldend123 View Post
    What happens if you sell it to a friend/family member, then sell it back to yourself and notarize that one?
    That was a thought I had. Actually though, the VT DMV site states you need a "bill of sale", it says nothing about needing to be notarized.

    It's gonna cost me ~$80 extra due to taxes and and registration cost, but it'll save me a huge headache.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Maine doesn't require a notarized bill of sale, so NH can't require one either. Bill of sale, prior reg from maine, and unfortunately you still have to do the stupid vin verification.

    Section 261:148 Permit Required.

    Note, there is no requirement by NH that the bill of sale be notarized.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    If you want to ride Groms give me a Call I have 2 and in Pembroke area.....

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    That was a thought I had. Actually though, the VT DMV site states you need a "bill of sale", it says nothing about needing to be notarized.

    It's gonna cost me ~$80 extra due to taxes and and registration cost, but it'll save me a huge headache.
    Correct, no notarization required for VT. So if you keep it in VT, good to go. However, if you plan to transfer it back to NH, won't you still need a bill of sale?

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    A bill of sale in VT is very simple too. I registered a 1986 KLR250 a few years ago with a bill of sale that was written on a napkin.
    All it needs is
    "I ____previous owner_____ sell one ______bike______ (VIN number ____vin number of bike______) to _______buyer______ as is no warranty for $___money_____"
    Then have both people sign it, DONE
    There's also nothing saying you can't just keep it registered in VT forever. Renewals can be done online VERY easily.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    I think I'm going to go this route, registering in VT. It's less of a hassle ironically.

    I believe all I need is a bill of sale and odometer disclosure. They mention a VIN verification on the website, but that only seems to be if the vehicle is to be titled, which a Grom will not be in VT.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Is it possible to get a title in VT for it? If so, you might consider it, just to cover your bases and make it possible to transfer it to NH later.

    Sometimes that sort of thing is worth it. For example, here in NH, if it's over 15 years old it doesn't need a title, but I titled all 5 of my old bikes here anyway, because I needed to send copies to CA to prove I had transferred them out of state and get the CA registration vultures off my back.

    Quote Originally Posted by aldend123 View Post
    Correct, no notarization required for VT. So if you keep it in VT, good to go. However, if you plan to transfer it back to NH, won't you still need a bill of sale?
    Quite possibly not, if he has a title in hand from another state that shows him to be the owner.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    VT doesn't title it either since its under 300cc. But having the VT registration in my name should make getting a title easier in NH. I believe then all I will need in NH is a VIN verification.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    you just need a VIN verification form. dont need state police, just a motorcycle inspection station. you may also need a "statement of fact" form as well. i went through all this with my KTM. no notary needed. takes 5 min. this is super easy. former reg is the hardest part. for me they accepted my off road reg
    i can forward you the statement of fact form if you give me your email.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    you just need a VIN verification form. dont need state police, just a motorcycle inspection station. you may also need a "statement of fact" form as well. i went through all this with my KTM. no notary needed. takes 5 min. this is super easy.
    i can forward you the statement of fact form if you give me your email.
    For which part? ME -> VT, or VT -> NH?

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    me -> nh

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    me -> nh
    And what about the notarized bill of sale and certified ME registration that the NH DMV told me I needed?

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    i didnt need any of that.
    -statement of fact
    -vin verification
    -previous reg

    i had a bill of sale (which was on a scrap piece of paper) but i dont recall needing it. i also did it all at my town hall.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    As I said in the original post, I don't have the previous reg, which is part of the problem. I only have a bill of sale.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    please hold

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    was bike ever reg'd in ME?

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    just got off the phone with Katie at the DMV. she says the easiest route is:

    get a dirt bike reg for it.
    take dirt bike reg, and vin verification form to town hall.
    register.
    get plate.
    profit

    i asked if you needed a statement of fact but she said no. id bring one just in case.
    i asked if the bill of sale needed to be notarized. she said no.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    I'm going to have to take back 5 or 10% of the nasty shit I've said about Oxx if it really is that easy.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    only 5-10%?

    whats funny is i was thinking of this end around when she had me on hold, and then she came back and said exactly what i was thinking.

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    wait...how much nasty shit you saying 'bout me!?

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilB View Post
    For example, here in NH, if it's over 15 years old it doesn't need a title,
    I believe the 15 year thing has gone away, and everything after 2000 needs a title

    back to SRTie4k's problem, I think he has an asshole town clerk making up his/her own rules (not unheard of)

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    Re: Maine bike with no title transferring to NH

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    back to SRTie4k's problem, I think he has an asshole town clerk making up his/her own rules (not unheard of)
    thats why i gave the person i talked to's name

    "you need blah blah blah"

    "well Katie in Titles at Concord said i only need this"

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