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Michelin Pilots Comparison "Please Read"

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    Tiller,

    Talk with CHR1s at the cool group site.

    He did a very good write up on this subject about a year ago. I think you will get some good info from him..

    http://www.coolgroup.org/

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    I have the M1's on my TLS, and think they suck. Maybe my bike is too sensitive to geometry changes (lowered front and raised rear) but even when I lower the back it still handles funny with the M1's. I had this problem with the 208gp's as well. I'm sticking with 207's.

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    Thanks for the info, Chris. How does the tire geometry compare to the 207zr on those 208zrs? Where, if at all, can you get the 208's? I'd love to try them.

    thanks.

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    Michelin Pilots Comparison "Please Read"

    Originally posted by tiller
    damn it i want some info on the pilots already
    ahem....

    [QUOTE- Sports offer more neutral handling at extreme lean angles than 207s

    - Sport front tread pattern promotes more even wear than 207s

    - Sports offer better overall grip than 207s

    - Sports offer better feedback than 207s, at the expense of some ride comfort

    - Sports averaged an extra weekend's worth of wear over the 207s

    - Sports take a bit longer to warmup than 207s

    - 207s are better in cold, wet conditions than Sports[/QUOTE]

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    Michelin Pilots Comparison "Please Read"

    I'd post something on the TL board if you haven't already. You want advice/opinions from people that have used all these tires on *TL's*.

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    Michelin Pilots Comparison "Please Read"

    I went from the stock 207's to the Pilots and I have no complaints about them other than they take longer to warm up.... What do you want to know about them? I can't say how they are on a track but for street riding at the level I do (not necessarily as aggressive as some of the other riders on this board... but at times more squidly ) I can't fault em yet.. although I have heard the new Rennersports are the tire to have now...

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    I switched from Dunlop 207zr to Pilot Sport on my '99 R1. The Pilots had better grip. Only problem was that the front pushed real bad with the pilots. I didn't find out til later that the front pilot is taller than the 207zr and the rear pilot is shorter than the 207zr. Peter at GMD Computrack told me this when I took my GSXR1000 to him for suspension set-up.

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    Honestly, I LOVE the D207's and I don't think I'll run anything else on the Tiller. There! That's my input. No science to it, just as I see it...

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    I never had any fucking Dunlops.
    I have Pilot Sports now and I can't tell you the fucking differance.

    I can tell you the best prices I got for these tires was from www.discountmotorcycletire.com and ythey showed up in less than a week.

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    Michelin Pilots Comparison "Please Read"

    I recently paid $213 for a set of the D207's from http://www.tireexpress.com It was the best price I could find at the time...

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    You can make due with a pair of jack stands. That's how I did it before JC got his balancer. It's not very sophisticated, but it does work if you're patient...

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    Originally posted by tiller
    jay i will prbably get bashed for admitting this but i wouldnt have the slightest idea of what i was doing, lol
    ps hey jay is it better 2 do static or does the snap on spiner do as good of a job ?? shit the old days i worked at small bike shop thats how we did it . now i'm old & lazzy have um spun witch is better ????? or r they the same ???????? cost me $15. mount & bal. midtown rockyhill ct. ????

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    Originally posted by tiller
    jay i will prbably get bashed for admitting this but i wouldnt have the slightest idea of what i was doing, lol
    It's actually pretty simple. First, you'll need wheel weights. I prefer the stick-ons over the clips, but that just boils down to personal preference...

    I've only done spin stuff, but it's still simple shit. If you're using jack stands, make sure they're level and that your wheel stays centered between them. When ya mount the tires, make sure you line up the 'dot' on the tire with the valve stem. That 'dot' marks the lightest point on the tire. Then all ya gotta do is simply spin the wheel as it rests on the stands so that it does about 4 or 5 full revolutions...

    Take some tire chalk, and mark where the wheel stops spinning at it's lowest point, and spin it again. The wheel should stop in the same spot. Add some weights to the OPPOSITE end of the wheel (the top of the wheel), and spin it again. You may hafta move the weights a coupla times, so don't secure 'em, just use a little bit of tape to hold 'em in place...

    When all is said and done, when you spin the wheel, you DON'T want it to keep stopping in the same spot. Obviously, the heaviest part of the wheel is gonna stop at the bottom. If you've done it right, it'll stop randomly when you spin it...

    I'm not sure if I've explained it clearly or not. But if you're not mounting your own tires, no need to take any of this in. Balancing should damn well be part of the price and process of mounting when you bring 'em to a shop. And while the jack stand process isn't the most desirable, you can achieve decent results with it as long as you're very patient...

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