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    School me on SV650's.

    My wife and I did our first track day this fall. We were both on 2014 BMW's and the cost of our bikes was on my mind at all times. I would like to have a pair of track bikes that could share spare parts. A guy I work with want to join us and he's on board with the interchangeable parts idea. So, what are the differences between 1st gen/2nd gen and what are the model years of each? I'd prefer efi if possible. We can't actually buy any bikes until spring time but want to know what we're looking at when the time comes. There have been some good looking deals here on the for sale section but the budget didn't allow us to jump on any of them yet.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    1999-2002 are carb
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    Come spring, sv track bikes might become scarce

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    03 is a bastard year and has some unique parts (seat, subframe come to mind). N and S models have some minor differences, most significant for track bikes being the triples. N has very slightly more offset I believe. All will need springs/emulators and upgraded shock to make competent track weapons unless you are Doucette

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    I want one too....

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    2nd gens have a larger radiator that gets damaged much easier when you crash

    I'm also told that even though the 2nd gen makes more power stock, it's easier to get substantial increases in power from the 1st gen, I'm also told that the 99s have the strongest crank

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    fwiw, I have a nekid 99 ready to be rebuilt into a track bike with a set of spare wheels

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Suzuki SV650 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Wiki is actually very complete. There is a nice matrix that goes down the gen-1/2 deltas.
    IMO, they all make excellent track toys. My gen 1 was one of the best purchases I've ever made, ever.

    My advice would be to look for something already setup for the track rather than building it up yourself.

    Tons and tons of quality advice here on NESR.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petorius View Post
    All will need springs/emulators and upgraded shock to make competent track weapons unless you are Doucette
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by theducman View Post
    1999-2002 are carb
    2003-2010 fuel injected
    This.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    My advice would be to look for something already setup for the track rather than building it up yourself.

    Tons and tons of quality advice here on NESR.
    And most definitely this. The SV is pretty much the jack-of-all trades bike, and a perfect track bike, at least in the opinions of many of use here on NESR.

    I am biased, mine was a street bike for 8 years and got turned track-only this year.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Sedanman: Your consideration of the SV as a track bike is a great choice. I've met so many riders that think SV650's and basically any non-supersport are weak and not fast enough. Well, 9 times out of 10 those guys who said that are the ones who fly down the straight and then literally crawl around the corners.
    I bought a 2002 SV650 S this May and converted it to a track only bike. I love everything about it. The power, body position and reliability. If you're buying a street SV and then converting it to track then your first upgrade should be a full suspension (front/rear). THIS BIKE NEEDS A GOOD SUSPENSION It was literally night and day.
    Good luck and hope to see you next year at the New England tracks.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Another strong option is the Ninja EX650r.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    http://www.andreanigroup.com/en-us/s...6&reparto=moto

    Contact Greg Spears at Spears Enterprises for a vendor. Im thinking of picking up a set of these myself

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    SVs suck

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    People have told me that the Gen 1 Frame is superior to the Gen 2 frame.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    SVs are overrated.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    First lets look at model years:
    1999-2002 is the Gen 1 bikes, all parts are interchangable here, there are a few very very minor differences (example the 1999 does not come with a second air system commonly called the PAIR system)
    2003 technically its a Gen 2 bike but as pete said its a odd one, subframe is a high subframe, everything about this is very different from other gen 2's excpet stuff like wheels, suspension parts, brakes.
    2004-2007 these are all very similar to each other this group has one spark plug per cylinder still, don't know of any specific things to watch out for here
    2008-2009 These bikes are Gen 2 as well, dual plug motor, some have ABS (personal preference imo is to not have abs for the track)

    as for parts interchangeability, there are a lot of parts shared between the bikes across all years and some parts are specific to certain generations. One example is all SV650 stock front brake calipers and pads will work on all years of SV650's.

    Again this is a basic run down of SV's, I personnally own two of them, a 1999 Gen 1 track bike and a 2009 Gen 2 for the street.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Karate.Snoopy View Post
    People have told me that the Gen 1 Frame is superior to the Gen 2 frame.
    Interesting. Who? What's the rationale?

    I think for 98% of us, either frame will do.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Pete will school anyone on an SV!

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Interesting. Who? What's the rationale?

    I think for 98% of us, either frame will do.

    Frame Gen 1 Aluminium alloy oval tube trellis Gen 2 Pressure cast aluminium alloy diamond truss

    I read on the interwebz that the trellis is a bit better than the stamping truss which is much cheaper to produce and requires far fewer welds because of which the quality was compromised a bit.
    But who the fook knows

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Interesting. Who? What's the rationale?

    I think for 98% of us, either frame will do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Karate.Snoopy View Post
    Frame Gen 1 Aluminium alloy oval tube trellis Gen 2 Pressure cast aluminium alloy diamond truss

    I read on the interwebz that the trellis is a bit better than the stamping truss which is much cheaper to produce and requires far fewer welds because of which the quality was compromised a bit.
    But who the fook knows
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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Viper897 View Post
    Again this is a basic run down of SV's, I personnally own two of them, a 1999 Gen 1 track bike and a 2009 Gen 2 for the street.
    Well, aren't you fancy?

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Quote Originally Posted by GixerJockey View Post
    SVs suck
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Kurtz View Post
    SVs are overrated.
    said no one.

    dont forget the gladius. its still an SV, just kinda funny looking. those can probably found a little cheaper if youre starting from street. but, a set up, track prepped SV can usually be found. the Ex650 is also a decent choice. not a V twin but similar in every other way compared to the SV. theres one for sale here thats all ready for the track.

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    SV' s suck. I'm glad I didn't have to sell mine.

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    SV suck. It was awesome beating a $20k Ducati on a 14 year old bike

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    I hear the gladius has a steel swingarm and a couple other differences.

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    Re: School me on SV650's.

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post

    dont forget the gladius.
    Definitely forget the Gladius.

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