Swapping tanks for trackdays?

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Why not buy an extra tank and leave it lying around in case you bin it and wreck the stock one?

[DuncanMoto]

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Keep your eye open for a good tank with pump, but Make the plastics a priority.
Used Sharkskins are better than new crap plastic IMO

[butcher bergs]

Lauren, do what you want to do! Its your bike.

I swap plastics etc on my bike back and forth between trackdays and have never had an issue with it. Takes about 45 mins (without snacks...there alex you happy you bitch) and really isn't as huge of a burden as everyone makes it seem to be.

Add to the fact that she's changing her wheels, plus tank, plus removing the lighting, etc.

I agree, do what she wants but it's highly likely that it's going to get real old real fast swapping the skins, tank and wheels for every trackday and then going back again in order to ride on the street. There are better things to be concerned with prior to a trackday, IMHO.

[Mondo]

lighting isnt bad at all...at least for my bike


as long as she doesnt have Chris put the wheels on she should be fine

[butcher bergs]

OH SNAP!!!

[scubasteveRR]

I agree with the fact that it will be a pain in the ass, but is it really a $2,000 pain in the ass.

I would love to have a dedicated track bike, but like Lauren I have a cash flow issue. It's just not economically sound to spend 2k on a track bike when you can spend the time switching up your plastics IMO.

I think eventually I will get a track bike but it wont be until i pay off my current bike, medical bills from my foot, bill from my new engine in my car, the ring that I'm planning on buying for my girlfriend after I pay the other shit off.. Then I'll have the $$ for a track bike. but thats about 4 years in the future right now.

[CBR929RE]

I do this with my Aprilia. Which I would say is the easiest bike I've owned to break down for a TD. I bought a lightly used tank and sharkskinz, thinking that I'd swap the tanks back and forth...I ended up running my "track tank" all summer! And its not that hard to change, but if you forget to run the tank dry on the last session, it gets to be a bitch draining the fuel. My Sharkskinz are a breeze to put on, but, even as a used set, I still had to drill to make things line up better.
You can do it, but after the 3rd time doing the seap you're 1) Gonna leave it set-up for TD's and get another street bike or 2) Buy/build another R6 for the track. You're going balls deep on this shit and its awesome! Keep on keeping on, and you'll be racing soon enough!!!

my bike got left in track form last year simply because I was too lazy to really chase down the cause of my headlights not working.

but really I'd swap stuff out and it never took much time. Putting the track stuff on if far quicker than the other way around though. but putting the track stuff on was also fun cause then I would think "yay I'm going to the track." never did the tank though cause that's just too involved for my liking.

[Femmekat]

shoulda bought a honda and then you coulda just swapped out tank covers like me

Yeah...seriously. Greg and I were talking last night about how sweet it is you can do that...

If you want to swap the tanks have at it. if you do go down you will be glad you did. Buy a second fuel pump it would suck moving that each time.

Only reason I was considering tanks is that I found a full set of OEM plastics in great shape, with a slightly dented tank, and an extra tail section for $200 total including shipping... seemed like a good deal.

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I'm going to have to agree with the others and from personal experience. It becomes a major major chore to swap parts before a track day. Sell everyhk g you nought and buy a track bike for 2k. No joke if you plan on doing 4 or more track day a year.

Yes... it does sound like it will be a chore. I'm kinda stuck in the middle right now... my bike did need some work, and seemed to make sense to do some upgrades rather than spending the same or more on OEM. So, I was stuck spending money either way, fix up the bike and try to dual purpuse it for street and track days with all the added fuss of swapping stuff over possibly, or to not fix the bike and having a badly running street bike with some broken stuff on it (which I will put over 12,000 miles on during the season) and buy a second track bike but not be able to fix either or upgrade anything if need be... Oi. Would definitely love a dedicated track bike at some point though, it would be well worth it.

Lauren, do what you want to do! Its your bike.

I swap plastics etc on my bike back and forth between trackdays and have never had an issue with it. Takes about 45 mins (without snacks...there alex you happy you bitch) and really isn't as huge of a burden as everyone makes it seem to be.

So if it takes you 45 minutes without snacks, it would take me about 2 hours...with all my fumbling and still no snacks, lol.

Add to the fact that she's changing her wheels, plus tank, plus removing the lighting, etc.

I agree, do what she wants but it's highly likely that it's going to get real old real fast swapping the skins, tank and wheels for every trackday and then going back again in order to ride on the street. There are better things to be concerned with prior to a trackday, IMHO.

Yes Bergs...the "list of things to do" prior to track days is adding up.... Hmmmm. Good point. One thing I was thinking is that if I get a spare set of OEM plastics for cheap, I could street them if I run out of time... Not planning on racing this bike, as I don't really want to start in the 600 class.... Probably would end up with an SV for track/race if anything...

[Sheppo]

Her bike is Carb'd should be NO pump.. am I right here or WAY off...

[butcher bergs]

there is likely a low pressure pump

[Sheppo]

I got off my lazy ass and looked at the fiche for a 2000 R6.. there is no intank pump. that is all.

[OreoGaborio]

Yes Bergs...the "list of things to do" prior to track days is adding up

and with that, so is the list of things to do AFTER a track day....

If I had to do all that stuff before & after a track day, one of two things would happen... Either I'd stop doing track days or I'd stop riding on the street.



Regarding the pump, I'm not sure about the yami, but none of my carbureted bikes had pumps.

[KB]

Buy a track day bike or make this your track day bike.



KB

[butcher bergs]

Pete, at least one of those carbed bikes of yours had a fuel pump. Probably not an in-tank pump as those are more common with FI, but most every vacuum-actuated fueling system has some kind of pump.

[FAST GSXR750]

My two cents. With my gsxr it now takes all of 30 minutes to cover the lights, pull the plate and mirrors and pop out the fuses. With a wheel change maybe a hour more to be safe, It's a track day so you're not pushing it that hard are you? I have a dreaded fear of dropping it so i don't push too hard. That deal sounds good if you want to keep swapping stuff, but is it that hard to cover the lights an stuff? JMO

[Femmekat]

Buy a track day bike or make this your track day bike.

and when you do come see us at



KB

Sorry... I'm a BoMo Elite kinda gal....

Pete, at least one of those carbed bikes of yours had a fuel pump. Probably not an in-tank pump as those are more common with FI, but most every vacuum-actuated fueling system has some kind of pump.

Yes...it does have a fuel pump, as the seller of the used tank I'm looking at is removing the pump prior to sale to use with the new tank he bought for his bike.. Fuel pump is here... about $60 used, or OEM listed for $229 (it is part #47 on the schematics)
http://www.bikebandit.com/houseofmot...zf-r6m/o/m8965

My two cents. With my gsxr it now takes all of 30 minutes to cover the lights, pull the plate and mirrors and pop out the fuses. With a wheel change maybe a hour more to be safe, It's a track day so you're not pushing it that hard are you? I have a dreaded fear of dropping it so i don't push too hard. That deal sounds good if you want to keep swapping stuff, but is it that hard to cover the lights an stuff? JMO

Not hard to cover the lights and stuff.... I just know I won't survive without the bike, or if its out of comission for any length of time so was just planning on having some "extras" around if I do drop it, so I can ride again asap. Don't want to make track days a pain in the ass, but most of the ones I do will probably be 2 days back to back, so I would be setting it up for 2 days in a row at least.... I hope to have my trailer to use this summer, so can just cart it home in pieces need be and put it pack together in its room before the weekend rides

Any good sources of Sharskins besides the R6 forums, WERA, and e-bay?

[OreoGaborio]

Pete, at least one of those carbed bikes of yours had a fuel pump. Probably not an in-tank pump as those are more common with FI, but most every vacuum-actuated fueling system has some kind of pump.

In-tank is what I meant. The only one that had a pump at all (under tank) was my 00 ZX.


Lauren, the fuel pump you linked to is not an in-tank pump. It's down next to the rear shock, mounted the frame on the right side of the bike.

If the seller removed a pump from inside the gas tank, make sure it's not from an 03+.

Google is teh awesum.

[Femmekat]

In-tank is what I meant. The only one that had a pump at all (under tank) was my 00 ZX.


Lauren, the fuel pump you linked to is not an in-tank pump. It's down next to the rear shock, mounted the frame on the right side of the bike.

If the seller removed a pump from inside the gas tank, make sure it's not from an 03+.

Google is teh awesum.

Its supposedly from the same year, a 2000

Oi.... I will have to clarify.... Just looked at my bike and I see what you're talking about... Hmmmm....

[Eric Baker]

Ok I'll chime in here. The tank has NO fuel pump in it. The pump is external behind the rear brake reservoir. It takes about 5 minutes to remove the tank on a first gen R6. Remove the seat, 3 bolts for the tank, shutoff petcock, remove 3 hoses and one plug(fuel level). If you're already swapping plastics, it takes really almost no extra time.

I can see it taking like an hour give or take to swap everything over(bodywork/tank/wheels) once you do it a couple times.

If you can get stock plastics cheap, I'd go that route since you won't have to worry about fitment issues or drilling holes/painting.

[Femmekat]

Ok I'll chime in here. The tank has NO fuel pump in it. The pump is external behind the rear brake reservoir. It takes about 5 minutes to remove the tank on a first gen R6. Remove the seat, 3 bolts for the tank, shutoff petcock, remove 3 hoses and one plug(fuel level). If you're already swapping plastics, it takes really almost no extra time.

Thank god you have the same bike... argh, so much conflicting information out there...

I'm going to owe you a lotta beer...

[Eric Baker]

Haha no worries.

[OreoGaborio]

Apparently my information doesn't deserve a beer

[Femmekat]

Apparently my information doesn't deserve a beer

Would a pat on the head and a "good boy" do?

Alright.... beers all around...

(but Eric is helping with clutch stuff so he gets extra)

[CBR929RE]

My two cents. With my gsxr it now takes all of 30 minutes to cover the lights, pull the plate and mirrors and pop out the fuses. With a wheel change maybe a hour more to be safe, It's a track day so you're not pushing it that hard are you? I have a dreaded fear of dropping it so i don't push too hard. That deal sounds good if you want to keep swapping stuff, but is it that hard to cover the lights an stuff? JMO

swapping to the track stuff probably takes me half an hour. and could be made easier with a drill and 5mm drill bit. once you get the street stuff off putting the track plastics on takes all of 5 minutes and only that long because I made up an "undertail" to cover the hole in the plastic undertray that's been cut away and that needs a couple bolts and zip ties to hold it in place. haven't swapped wheels back and forth yet since I only rode on the track last year but probably another half hour for those including swapping front rotors.

its going back to the street stuff that sucks cause the front fairing with the headlight always wants to be a bitch. not sure how easy it is on the R6 though.