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94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

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    Re: 94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

    anyone with an 06+ R6 have drilled the outer two most exhaust header bolt? Im wondering if there is enough meat on the bolt to do this or is there any other method that would be tech acceptable?

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    Re: 94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason P. View Post
    anyone with an 06+ R6 have drilled the outer two most exhaust header bolt? Im wondering if there is enough meat on the bolt to do this or is there any other method that would be tech acceptable?
    Replace them with ProBolts??

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingahNinjah View Post
    Replace them with ProBolts??
    Yea im trying to search on their site but somehow these are Spec'L bolts. thinking the pitch is 8X1.25 ahhhh. Prob going to have to confirm with a local dealer.

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    Re: 94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

    Look them up on the BikeBandit.com parts fische for that bike. It should have the diameter, length and pitch listed.

    NM just checked on BikeBandit and the pitch isnt listed there either. perhaps take the nuts to a local hardware shop and figure out what they are there?

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    Re: 94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason P. View Post
    anyone with an 06+ R6 have drilled the outer two most exhaust header bolt? Im wondering if there is enough meat on the bolt to do this or is there any other method that would be tech acceptable?
    I've done it. There are no bolts, actually, there are studs that stick out of the engine. You tighten nuts down onto your exhaust flanges to hold your headers in place. What I suggest you do is drill the nuts, two on the rightmost exhaust header and two on the left. Then you wire them to eachother.

    (another option is to drill through the end of the header stud and wire these, thus stopping a nut from coming loose, but that requires drilling the studs while they are on the bike, more difficult than taking the nuts off and drilling those in a vice or jig).

    To drill the nuts, you drill through two adjacent flats, at an angle.... carefully. You should use a center punch to set your entry point, start by going sort of straight in and then as you begin to remove material, lay the drill bit down to the correct angle.

    Like this, is the result
    94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!-safety-wired-header-bolts-jpg

    Another option is to buy a jig to assist you like this or this, but I never did that. But if you think you'll need to do a lot, might make sense.

    Also, it appears some companies make predrilled nuts, but that seems silly to me...like this:
    94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!-090bzxxxxxx_a_l-jpg

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    Re: 94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

    I cheated. I went to Fastenal and got a bag of stainless coupling nuts. They're long enough that you can just drill straight through them on one end. Install and then wire as per CEO's instructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    I cheated. I went to Fastenal and got a bag of stainless coupling nuts. They're long enough that you can just drill straight through them on one end. Install and then wire as per CEO's instructions.
    They're longer in which direction? Want to make sure there won't be interference. The space around these headers on the r6 is pretty tight. With a socket over nut there is essentially no room between the socket and header.

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    So, same diameter as the stock nuts (although no flange so bring your own washer) but longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CEO View Post
    I've done it. There are no bolts, actually, there are studs that stick out of the engine. You tighten nuts down onto your exhaust flanges to hold your headers in place. What I suggest you do is drill the nuts, two on the rightmost exhaust header and two on the left. Then you wire them to eachother.

    (another option is to drill through the end of the header stud and wire these, thus stopping a nut from coming loose, but that requires drilling the studs while they are on the bike, more difficult than taking the nuts off and drilling those in a vice or jig).

    To drill the nuts, you drill through two adjacent flats, at an angle.... carefully. You should use a center punch to set your entry point, start by going sort of straight in and then as you begin to remove material, lay the drill bit down to the correct angle.

    Like this, is the result
    94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!-safety-wired-header-bolts-jpg

    Another option is to buy a jig to assist you like this or this, but I never did that. But if you think you'll need to do a lot, might make sense.

    Also, it appears some companies make predrilled nuts, but that seems silly to me...like this:
    94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!-090bzxxxxxx_a_l-jpg
    Thank you for the tip - I do get the bolt and nuts mixed up. I did buy the Moto-D drill bit but was quite unsatisfied with it as a jig. I may do the 'drill through the nut/stud' route if drilling the nut itself doesnt pan out too well.

    One more thing to add to the weekend's list

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    Going in from the side like that on an angle, in my experience, the best way is by hand.

    Oh, and I forgot... use some good cutting/tapping oil, or at least regular oil, while you're drilling. Makes a big difference in cooling the bit and reducing heat and breakage.

    I use tap magic, and apply it with a dropper as i'm working.

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    Re: 94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CEO View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason P. View Post
    anyone with an 06+ R6 have drilled the outer two most exhaust header bolt? I’m wondering if there is enough meat on the bolt to do this or is there any other method that would be tech acceptable?
    What I suggest you do is drill the nuts, two on the right most exhaust header and two on the left. Then you wire them to each other.... To drill the nuts, you drill through two adjacent flats, at an angle.... carefully. You should use a center punch to set your entry point, start by going sort of straight in and then as you begin to remove material, lay the drill bit down to the correct angle.
    Same thing I did on both of my R6's. There is definitely enough meat. I don't use a center punch, but it can be helpful. Just put the nut in a vice, then follow what CEO said. Easy peasy, and they look kind of like this:



    In fact, mine went so easy I just did all the header nuts on both R6’s ... but like CEO said, you don't have to do them all.

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    Tap magic is the shit , CEO so pumped to have you coming back this year will be damn good to see you

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    Buying new bolts makes it easier since they aren't hardened like the ones already used on your bike. Wd40 works good on the drill bits, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrrs428 View Post
    Tap magic is the shit , CEO so pumped to have you coming back this year will be damn good to see you
    I'm at half mast already, clahhhhkie!

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    20 days left ladies

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    I've officially reset my clock, I'm at 41 days. Too many corners would have to be cut to get either the FZR or WReck in race-able trim, I'm not going to put this level of effort in to have it come out half assed. (Ok, the WReck by definition is going to be half assed, but I'm going to still hit a few key details right the first time.)

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    Still haven't touched the race bike lol.

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    Re: 94 DAYS UNTILL 2015 LRRS RACE SEASON!!!!!

    Being a noob to the scene and don't even have a license yet but I wished I could take the basic school yesterday. Why are people kinda, alittle freaking out? Probably everyone only BS's though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tas View Post
    Being a noob to the scene and don't even have a license yet but I wished I could take the basic school yesterday. Why are people kinda, alittle freaking out? Probably everyone only BS's though.
    Not a lot of time to get everything done on the bike that needs to get done.

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    Valves checked.
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    Why are people kinda, a little freaking out? Probably everyone only BS's though.
    This is a trait you will pick up with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tas View Post
    Being a noob to the scene and don't even have a license yet but I wished I could take the basic school yesterday. Why are people kinda, alittle freaking out? Probably everyone only BS's though.
    Ignorance is bliss. Many little things that can bite you in the ass and ruin a good race if not taken care of beforehand.

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    My engine is done. Just have to put it in the bike and break it in.

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