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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    I don't think it makes any difference as the competition gets closer to the top. A MW is more expensive to
    Run regardless of level.
    Ok...but it gets exponentially more expensive compared to an SV. As an AM you can run takeoffs and be fine on a MW. EX pretty much requires new skins. Most aren't prepared for how expensive it gets IMO. Ryan Nicholson told me something like this when I went to EX MW. Welcome to EXMW. Very few people last for a long time here.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Ok...but it gets exponentially more expensive compared to an SV. As an AM you can run takeoffs and be fine on a MW. EX pretty much requires new skins. Most aren't prepared for how expensive it gets IMO. Ryan Nicholson told me something like this when I went to EX MW. Welcome to EXMW. Very few people last for a long time here.
    We are saying the same thing.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Ask Brian how much it cost to run his SV program this year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    so the expert LW grids were 5-10 bikes?
    Jim...that post was fucking awesome.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    That post was ignorant if anything.

    August Round:

    AM classes:
    LWSS 13 entries. Mwss 16
    LWSB 14 entires. Mwsb 18.

    EX classes
    LWGP 24 entries. MWGP 13
    LWSS 12 entries. Mwss 12 entries
    LWSB 17 entries. Mwsb 8 entries


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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by GingahNinjah View Post
    Dear Brenda,

    I humbly request that Savas, Sam, and Harlan all be bumped to the ranks of the Experts at your next earliest convenience.

    Sincerely
    The guy who wants to be next years AM Champion

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    Yes those three should go. But it doesn't leave you alone out there.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Brian should bump too. He's faster than Sam and Harlan and he proved that.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by maxim_X View Post
    Yes those three should go. But it doesn't leave you alone out there.
    Oh Im well aware I wont be alone and I dont want to be Im looking forward to racing with people out there and actually have it be racing rather than a blowout by people who shouldve bumped but didnt. looking forward to mixing it up with you JC among others!

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    Brian should bump too. He's faster than Sam and Harlan and he proved that.
    Thanks for the vote of confidence Sav but I would like to be able to race a full season as an AM with a bike at full power before I go charging into the EX ranks

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    i thought that there was something in the rules that said if you won a championship as an AM that you automatically got bumped.
    i guess morally, if you win an AM championship and you dont bump then youre just a cherry picker. the whole point of racing is competition. if you win all the time, then wheres the competition?

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    AS everyone has figure out, guessed, or read, there hasn't been a auto bump rule to expert for a number of years now.
    Each racer needs to email Brenda for consideration.
    The logic - if someone should actually bump too early then they may be frustrated not moving up though the expert ranks.
    Conversely some racers "cherry picking" in Amateur should go up (admin bump) so the rest of the Amateur field has opportunities.

    AS of this moment there are no admin bumps ... (some amateurs wanting to run the Oct Daytona "race of Championships" as an Amateur.
    All the data is being pulled together and reviewed as to who should received the "admin" bump.....stay tuned.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    That post was ignorant if anything.

    August Round:

    AM classes:
    LWSS 13 entries. Mwss 16
    LWSB 14 entires. Mwsb 18.

    EX classes
    LWGP 24 entries. MWGP 13
    LWSS 12 entries. Mwss 12 entries
    LWSB 17 entries. Mwsb 8 entries


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    I still think it was funny.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    ps.
    If you should get the "admin" bump to expert you can always petition to stay an Amateur - with some good reason.
    hint on admin bump..if you run lap times in the 107% of class-record range there might not be many places to hide.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    That post was ignorant if anything.

    August Round:

    AM classes:
    LWSS 13 entries. Mwss 16
    LWSB 14 entires. Mwsb 18.

    EX classes
    LWGP 24 entries. MWGP 13
    LWSS 12 entries. Mwss 12 entries
    LWSB 17 entries. Mwsb 8 entries


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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    like i stated before, the MW, HW, and Unl grids for amateur have been much bigger than expert, and i dont see them not "admin bumping" people.

    round 6
    AM LWGP: 12 entries
    EX LWGP: 23 entries

    AM MWGP: 26 entries
    EX MWGP: 16 entries

    Round 7
    AM LWGP: 9 entries
    EX LWGP: 19 entries

    AM MWGP: 22 entries
    EX MWGP: 13 entries

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    No Jim your funny statement was that EX LW grids as I said are double than AM have 5-10 people while the number shows that EX LW has more entries than EX MW.
    Just because the MW guys have taken sandbagging to a pro level doesn't mean that LW grids are a joke. If you think you would have it any easier/better in the LW classes I openly invited you to join us.
    I can already predict your response and how you will say something about the real racing is in the 600s so I know there is no outcome that will make sense out of this conversation I just wanted to make my point that racing exists in several levels and bikes and in lrrs specifically it seems that there's more competition in the LW class instead of the MW as you go up in level. I don't know the reason behind it and I don't really care.
    I also think anyone who has won a championship either by doing all the races, or being the only one entering a class or turning the fastest times should be bumped to EX and deal with it. But I am not an official I am just a guy with a bike who enjoys racing.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    No Jim your funny statement was that EX LW grids as I said are double than AM have 5-10 people while the number shows that EX LW has more entries than EX MW.
    Just because the MW guys have taken sandbagging to a pro level doesn't mean that LW grids are a joke. If you think you would have it any easier/better in the LW classes I openly invited you to join us.
    I can already predict your response and how you will say something about the real racing is in the 600s so I know there is no outcome that will make sense out of this conversation I just wanted to make my point that racing exists in several levels and bikes and in lrrs specifically it seems that there's more competition in the LW class instead of the MW as you go up in level. I don't know the reason behind it and I don't really care.
    I also think anyone who has won a championship either by doing all the races, or being the only one entering a class or turning the fastest times should be bumped to EX and deal with it. But I am not an official I am just a guy with a bike who enjoys racing.
    Who was sandbagging?

    LW is cheaper to race as an EX. Hence more sustainable.

    And nobody should be bumped unless they have the times to do so. If everyone in the AM class is slow that year...they should all stay AM until they see the times to bump.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Rough day Sav?

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    there's sandbaggers in every class, at all levels. there's even sandbaggers in EX races. there's a CCS guy that used to do WSBK and he dominates all the Unl races. it's just the way it is.

    i dont want to go LW for a number of reasons. grid sizes is not one of them.

    my point was the i4 waves for amateurs have been large and need to bump to expert. why get all fired up that i cracked a joke about the LW grids, who cares. would you have not cared if i said i should've gotten a 125cc bike and finished 1st or 2nd out of 2 bikes?

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    That makes sense but there we no auto bumps last year and none this year as far as I know.
    Not true. This I know.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Sorry wrong year. Last year might be true.

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    if you win all the time, then wheres the competition?
    I would guess in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, fif, 6th, 7th, 8th....



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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    now i wanna bump to NV
    Is that what you do after you wrap up an ASRA national championship?

    Cough, cough, sandbagger, cough. :p

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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    I've had what seems to be a simple formula for bumping for a while now - based mostly on times. I bought my way to the 2013 AM achievement award and won the GTU championship doing awfully slow times. Does this mean I should have been forced to go EX? Hell no. It means they need to change the criteria for that award, lol.
    I see the bump thing pretty simply, say in the am MW class - if someone is doing more than say 50% of their laps in the 17's, they have to go. It should be simplified. Championships shouldn't be the deciding factor and as of now it's not. All classes could be that simple. The NV group is set up that way and I think the AM should be too. So what if you're last as an EX? Who cares. The racing at the back of the EX class would be a lot closer.
    So I see it like this - auto bump if over 50% of your total race lap times combined with a certain number of races under your belt: championships be dammned.
    NV 1.23 +
    AM 1.22.999 - 1.17.0
    EX 1.16.999 and down
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    Re: No more auto bump AM - EX

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke387 View Post
    I've had what seems to be a simple formula for bumping for a while now - based mostly on times. I bought my way to the 2013 AM achievement award and won the GTU championship doing awfully slow times. Does this mean I should have been forced to go EX? Hell no. It means they need to change the criteria for that award, lol.
    I see the bump thing pretty simply, say in the am MW class - if someone is doing more than say 50% of their laps in the 17's, they have to go. It should be simplified. Championships shouldn't be the deciding factor and as of now it's not. All classes could be that simple. The NV group is set up that way and I think the AM should be too. So what if you're last as an EX? Who cares. The racing at the back of the EX class would be a lot closer.
    So I see it like this - auto bump if over 50% of your total race lap times combined with a certain number of races under your belt: championships be dammned.
    NV 1.23 +
    AM 1.22.999 - 1.17.0
    EX 1.16.999 and down
    -my two cents
    Problem with this idea is it doesn't auto-bump the cherry pickers who do 19s and then "miraculously" throw down a high 16 in the dash when there's cash money on the line...

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    I was informed last night at the banquet that I am now an EX.
    White plates and new bike colors for sure.

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