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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    because race tire sponsorship deals and bike general setup are done closed-season for the following year. You couldn't change tires mid season because you would be in breach of contract and it would take months to set the bike up for the new tires.
    Perhaps, but I dunno, I guess I'm more of a person that likes to see personal choices instead of mandates. Id just rather see a team suffer for a bit cause they made the "wrong" decision, that a forced spec rule.

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    I guess you could achieve that by eliminating the contractual relationship between teams and riders... just have the tires, for sale, like anybody else....

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    Well either way Ill be watching MotoGP, so it doesnt affect me. Go Hopper.

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    I've only skimmed some of these posts so if it's been said sorry for the repeat...

    I'm kinda sad to see them go to a spec tire if only because a few years ago when michelin was kicking ass and owned the paddock, save for a few lonely backmarkers on bridgestones or maybe dunlops, no one was bitching. that it's a big deal now that bridgestone is kicking ass is a shame ...as far as the 'saleability' of it, well, motogp is supposed to be the best of the best. i'd prefer to keep is that way. let competition figure it out. both bridgestone and michelin have left and returned to formula 1 racing as they see fit over the years rules shouldn't specifically exclude them.

    just my $0.02. flame away. i'll probably never read this thread again anyway.

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Dummy Denno View Post
    the most exciting racing to watch right now is WSBK and SS and they are on spec Pirelli race tires - spec tire racing works and I think its a good thing

    give em compound options to deal w/
    And from a commercial standpoint spec tires do nothing for a company. You get no serious benefits from being the WSB Championship winning tire since you are the only tire allowed. Bridgestone gets nothing out of F1 for being the spec tire, and it will be the same for MotoGP.

    Renault cannot brag about winning Formula Renault, and BMW cannot brag about winning Formula BMW.

    A company goes racing to sell product. You don't sell product racing against yourself. You sell product by being pushed by a competitor to be the best you can be.

    Goodbye tire development! No need to improve since you have to ride our rubber or not ride at all. Now - will 'Stone continue to make tires for each rider, or will they do the F1 thing and just says here's the size, and we are bringing two compounds?

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    I don't see the value of running a spec tire.

    When (not "if") that tire manufacturer produces a bad batch, the entire field of racers is affected.

    It's happened more than once beyond motorcycle racing.

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    What about as some have pointed to:

    All tire manufacturer's welcome. Long term contracts would become obsolete.
    Teams that can change and adapt the fastest and the best will win.
    The best racers will on the best rubber.
    The best tire will have most exposure. The other tire manufacturers will have to climb back in the game by better R&D.

    What's wrong with that?

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    If you ask me, I think a spec tire makes things better because it highlights the rider ability more. 125 and 250GP is all spec tire and Dunlop to boot. No complaints there. I think WSBK is amazing to watch, too. Compound choice and riding style are enough of a variable to make tire wear vastly different for riders on the same grid. I say go for it. If it doesn't work well, change the rule.

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    Some of you don't get it. Racing is not supposed to be a personality contest for the riders. It is about the machines and the supporting equipment. Companies hire the riders they hope will represent their products in the best light{Winning!}. If you start laying on different "spec" rules to even up the racing, why should the manufacturers bother with the millions they spend on development?? Heck, might as well just make a "spec" bike and let the manufactuers pay to put their name on it. {Hmmm, looks like Nascar to me.} Then you can go out and buy a bike that looks like the latest "spec" bike but performs like,, dare I say it, a Harley. This ultimately is what you end up with when you turn racing into a form of entertainment. It slowly drifts away from being real competition.

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    Re: MotoGP spec tires

    Quote Originally Posted by scottieducati View Post
    I guess you could achieve that by eliminating the contractual relationship between teams and riders... just have the tires, for sale, like anybody else....

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