Motor work, mod & overall racing advice wanted

[The Snowman]

Dumb question, but you have ever seen a pro rider using a wave rotor for competition? Usually not. Maybe for photo shoots.

Why not check into Brembo or Braketech rotors? (damn those Braketech creamic rotors are sweet, but $1100 EACH for the fronts.)

[13]

I've built sweet Subaru engines. How hard can an SV engine be?

[Doc]

Dumb question, but you have ever seen a pro rider using a wave rotor for competition?

Ya know... I have never thought of that.

I do know my wave rotors stop better than my stockers.

[scottieducati]

Actually yes, I have... just not the factory boys. I believe there are even some World Supersport guys running the Wave Rotors.

Pete, for what it's worth, I can get you a deal on Braketech stuff too

Dumb question, but you have ever seen a pro rider using a wave rotor for competition? Usually not. Maybe for photo shoots.

Why not check into Brembo or Braketech rotors? (damn those Braketech creamic rotors are sweet, but $1100 EACH for the fronts.)

[GixerJockey]

Hmm...

http://www.solomotoparts.com/product...1&cat=0&page=1
http://www.solomotoparts.com/product...3&cat=0&page=1

Pete... I can get either one of those cheaper than that for you...

[DuncanMoto]

Pete... I can get either one of those cheaper than that for you...

Can you still???

I think I got Pete covered on the rotors.

[Kitt]

Can you still???

I think I got Pete covered on the rotors.

dick!


PS... I can get them cheaper than you!

but unless pete is riding a baby blue and black bike, he's on his own.

[OreoGaborio]

I would never ride a baby black and blue.... that's just sick.


Wait, what?

[nt650hawk]

6.1.2 All motorcycles must meet the following requirements in addition to the
applicable requirements in Section 5.
A. Original equipment wheels, brake calipers, forks, frame, engine, fuel
induction system, and swing arm must be used.
Cut whatever you can off the sub frame. Or make you own.
(1) 18” wheels may be replaced with 17” wheels of the same width.
(2) 16” wheels may be replaced with 17” wheels of the same width.
(3) Rear swing arms on OEM Belt drive motorcycles may be
replaced to convert final drive assembly from belt to chain drive.
B. Aftermarket brake rotors may be used but must be the same
dimensions as the originals and must be made of a ferrous material.
ABM Full Floating. ===Less resistance between the Pad and Rotor which gives you a better feel of the tire to pavement.===
Go see Ted
Non-current motorcycles may use brake rotors up to the same size
as those that come as original equipment on the current model machine.
(1) Aftermarket brake cooling ducts or wind deflectors are prohibited in
Supersport
C. Any fairing may be used provided it is made of plastic, fiberglass or
carbon fiber and it meets the requirements in Section 5..
D. Original equipment air box must remain as produced. Air filters must
be used but may be Aftermarket units. Aftermarket air filters are
restricted to units available via normal commercial channels and
designed to mount in the stock location for that specific model
machine.
Aftermarket air filter units that replace part of the OEM. air box are
required to maintain the original size and number of air inlet openings
as the stock unit. (Are they talking about the Air filter here, Yes, NO?)
Does this mean that you can take the top off of you air box?
RAM AIR plumbing to the box!
E. Engine modifications include the following:
(1.) Pistons which are no larger than 1mm over stock size may be
used but must be same compression ratio as the OEM piston.
(2.) Original equipment cylinders must be used.
Coated to reduce friction
(3.) Original equipment head, valves, and cams must remain as
produced, with the exception of machining the gasket surface of
the cylinder head.
Gaskets
Stronger Valve springs
Ti caps and retainers
Slotted cam gear.
(4.) Original equipment cases, crankshaft, and connecting rods must
remain as produced.
(5.) Original equipment transmission gears must be used.
(6.) Carburetor bodies and/or throttle bodies may not be modified,
bored, or polished.
DAMN
F. Internal engine modifications on all single cylinder machines,
4-stroke twin cylinder machines with less than 4 valves per cylinder
produced prior to the 1999 model year., and all twin cylinder machines
produced prior to the 1994 model year are unlimited, provided class
displacement limits are not exceeded.
G. Aftermarket carburetors may be used on single cylinder machines,
all 4-stroke twin cylinder machines with less than 4 valves per
cylinder, and all twin cylinder 4-stroke machines produced prior to the
1994 model year. 6.1.2. D. is waived for single cylinder and all twin
cylinder 4-stroke machines produced prior to the 1999 model year.
GET A HAWK
H. Tires must be DOT approved.
(1.) If the Race Director declares a “Wet” event, commercially available
rain tires may be used in place of DOT approved tires for the
remainder of that race day.



Leg strengt training
Diet.
Seat time.
Think you've got the PC and Full Pipe

Pete you impressed me this year and did Extremely well this season. Can't wait to see what you have in store this season.

[DerekSBelanger]

....and thats why we all like Gino.

I'd think that whatever you choose to upgrade, it would be important to make sure you have $$ for a full season of racing (consumables, maintenacne and repairs) before spending on anything else. Cant score points if you aint on the track.

[OreoGaborio]

....and thats why we all love Gino.

Ficksed And thanks, Gino, I'm excited, too

ABM rotors, eh? Better than Galfer Waves?

Oh Ted... Price check for ABM part number 114-01546-19 times two, please?

[Kurlon]

Also note, while they say certain head bits must match OEM, they don't say anything about keeping them in the same place...

Check to see if Suzuki offers OEM oversize valves for repair.

Check the grind profiles of different year intake and exhaust cams, might be worth while to run an intake cam in the exhaust for a bit more lift/duration?

08 SV650s got dual spark heads, possibly 07s as well.

It'd be worth asking Eric at CCS weather or not the SFV650 (Gladius) counts as in the same model line as the SV650 (given that it's replaced it in Suzuki's line up, same engine, etc, and even Suzuki Corp calls it an SV replacement I'd think so...) as it appears the Gladius has lighter wheels, and the engine might have some minor tweaks worth backporting to your SV.

Edit:
Throttle bodies changed for the 'k7'/07 models...?

[nt650hawk]

....and thats why we all like Gino.

I'd think that whatever you choose to upgrade, it would be important to make sure you have $$ for a full season of racing (consumables, maintenacne and repairs) before spending on anything else. Cant score points if you aint on the track.

KEY POINT Thanks D. If you don't race you can do well.

Ficksed And thanks, Gino, I'm excited, too

ABM rotors, eh? Better than Galfer Waves?

Oh Ted... Price check for ABM part number 114-01546-19 times two, please?

anyone want to ride with me....

[OreoGaborio]

So I FINALLY tore into the SV yesterday...
pulled off the forks,
yanked the shock,
trimmed my subframe to save weight,
Popped off the airbox & now have my eyes on the emissions system and wiring harness which are both still fully intact.


I think I'm going to hold off on motor work this year. I'm gonna concentrate on chassis/suspension work & place an order for a Quickshifter at some point in the near future.

And I've got some Galfer rotors waiting for me at DuncanMoto. I was considering going with the AFM's so I could be like Gino, but Ted had already placed the order. I supposed I could sell them & get some AFM's. Gino, think it's worth the trouble?

[scottieducati]

Pete, no it's not worth the trouble ya nunce!

[OreoGaborio]

... But I wanna be like Gino

[GixerJockey]

So that's what the Vemar is reduced to huh?

[OreoGaborio]

Done (or being done) for 2010:

Galfer rotors
Keyless ignition (just need a 30a switch and a 100ohm 1/2w resistor)
Keyless gas cap (just ordered one of these)
Removed PAIR emissions system to simplify things under the "hood" & shed a little weight
Dynojet Quickshifter
Trimmed my subframe
Had my Ohlins shock rebuilt by GMD
Had my fork internals completely pimped by GMD
Woodcraft Clip-ons to rep the sponsors!


Still need to order up a little Shear pin for my Scotts damper... It's a little tiny $3.95 part that Scotts wants $10.90 to ship via UPS ground

[spydah]

sweet! Thanks for telling me what I need to do to be on par machine wise.. Now I just need to get more skills ;-)