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Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

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    Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    There is a law that came into effect on Feb 10th 2009 that effectively bans the sale of a huge number of children’s products, including dirt bikes and ATV's. Honda and Yamaha have both sent letters to their dealers telling them to remove the kid’s bikes from display, and to cease selling them. Even private sales will break the law.

    This is all to do with lead paint in kid’s toys. The Govt. had a knee jerk reaction and made a law that bans lead in quantities of 600ppm or more… not just in paint, but in ANYTHING that a kid of 12 or under might use. What’s worse, is that the law has been deemed to be ‘retroactive’, so all inventory is affected. A bike that satisfies the law today, became hazardous on Feb 10th.

    It turns out that lead in steel alloys is normal, and necessary in fact. It make the steel more ‘pliable’, easier to machine, bend etc. Steel alloys without lead are more expensive to use in manufacturing. Thus, many steel frames contain lead in higher than 600ppm, so the frames are now a ‘hazardous’ material. The lead in steel is insoluble, and wouldn’t come out in a million years, but the CPSC and Govt don’t seem to get that. There is also lead in valve stems, vinyl seats, cable housings & spoke nipples. All will be ‘hazardous’ as of Feb 10th.

    A “stay was granted on Feb 9th that delayed implementation while the CPSC sort themselves out. There are petitions from all sorts of industries in to the CPSC and the Government. The MIC and AMA are both on it. Unfortunately, it appears to have become a ‘political’ issue rather than a safety issue.
    As of today, not much has changed. Yes, there was stay awarded a few days ago. But it doesn’t affect the February 10th deadline. It only affects the actual testing of products that will be illegal once that deadline passes.

    The New York Times has a blog about it here: http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009.../dirt-bikes-2/

    The AMA sent a letter to Congress. Published here: http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=595

    The Act itself is here: http://www.cpsc.gov/ABOUT/Cpsia/101lead.pdf

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    thats bullshit... i learned to ride something with a motor before I even rode a pedal bike.. this is b.s.

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by apollomx681 View Post
    thats bullshit... i learned to ride something with a motor before I even rode a pedal bike.. this is b.s.
    No Bullshit is being stuck with inventory I can't legally SELL !

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    I was reading about this the other day and find it to be totally ridiculous!

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    I dunno bout you guys, but for fun I like to chew on my bikes frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppo View Post
    No Bullshit is being stuck with inventory I can't legally SELL !

    cough:: yardsale ::cough cough

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by apollomx681 View Post
    cough:: yardsale ::cough cough
    LOL it's been discussed BUT you know even private sales aren't supposed to happen. The fuckin greenies hit huge with this one. pretty soon we'll be a nation of fat fuckin weebles 'cause our kids will be riding the couch not a dirt bike. You'll hear them at the mall weezin how they can to a no handed seat grab back flip over the 70' dirt ramp...and you'll know that they are talking X-Box...

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    How come nobody heard of this before it happened?

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    Scumbag back-door politics is why.... and the media of course would have FAILED to report on anything but the Toy aspect we've all heard about.

    I can't wait to have kids, I won't have to do a damn thing to raise them, the gov and TV will take care of it all for me!!!

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Its a bunch of crap. It seems to me they want people to go out and kill themselves learning on full sized bikes instead of growing up on bikes and knowing a thing or two. I got my first bike at 6 and if I ever have a kid I intend on doing the same thing as my dad did with me.

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    I bought mine before the 10th so my daughter will have one to learn on.

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Stupid question. Don't pedal bikes (bmx, mountain, etc.) also have steel alloy frames?

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppo View Post
    No Bullshit is being stuck with inventory I can't legally SELL !
    Thankfully, I'm clean save for one unit...



    This also includes the sale of used machines...

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by GixerJockey View Post
    Thankfully, I'm clean save for one unit...



    This also includes the sale of used machines...
    I have a few more than one...and 1 used...

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    If you fell like taking action matters: The AMA has a link that makes it real easy to send an email to your representatives.

    http://www.amadirectlink.com/news/story.asp?id=613

    Click on the Issues and Legislation link and then go to the Take Action link below the article discussing the ban on youth motorcycles and ATVs.

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by slammp View Post
    Stupid question. Don't pedal bikes (bmx, mountain, etc.) also have steel alloy frames?
    Good question. Also, what about wagons, ice skates, etc...

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Wow this sucks! I was intending to get my kid a dirt bike this year. What if I buy it for myself??????

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by brewmaster View Post
    Wow this sucks! I was intending to get my kid a dirt bike this year. What if I buy it for myself??????
    Suzuki and yamaha did not import any kids products for 09 because they already knew that this was in the works.

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    I'll have to video my sad faced daughter and send it to one of our brilliant Senators who voted for this CRAP!

    Question does this mean all of the busses kids ride on are not using steel with the same alloy?

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    This is a really stupid law, and a bad hit. My best friend has 2 sons, 3 & 1 yr old, and the 3yr old already wants a bike. I'm sure the younger isn't far behind. We've been looking forward to hitting the trails with the tykes since they were infants. It's insane this goes for used bikes too, they didn't even do that with the 3 wheeler ban. Not like the kids are going to be munching on the frames. I'm sending the letters and doing my thing, here's to hoping this crap gets straightened out.

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    I stopped by my local dealer today to exchange some parts, order some parts, and use their bike registration services to get a plate on my SXV before the NH temp expires. While I was in the office doing the paperwork, I overheard some talk about this. Not only were they asked to not sell the little bikes and remove them from the showroom, but they couldn't even sell parts for them?

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppo View Post
    LOL it's been discussed BUT you know even private sales aren't supposed to happen. The fuckin greenies hit huge with this one. pretty soon we'll be a nation of fat fuckin weebles 'cause our kids will be riding the couch not a dirt bike. You'll hear them at the mall weezin how they can to a no handed seat grab back flip over the 70' dirt ramp...and you'll know that they are talking X-Box...
    Even yardsales are effected. You can't sell kid's toys that have lead in it. Matchbox, die cast toys, bikes, etc. Fuckin dumbass congressmen.

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    Re: Federal Law bans sale of kids dirtbikes/ATV's

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post
    I stopped by my local dealer today to exchange some parts, order some parts, and use their bike registration services to get a plate on my SXV before the NH temp expires. While I was in the office doing the paperwork, I overheard some talk about this. Not only were they asked to not sell the little bikes and remove them from the showroom, but they couldn't even sell parts for them?
    Correct. Parts for any bike that does not comply with the new guidelines can't be legally sold. If you can't find a compatible part from a larger bike (or know a dealer that will hook you up) you are screwed. The exception is if you go through like Two Brothers or something for aftermarket parts for like 110's because those parts are geared toward adults, not kids and are exempt.

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