Videos:wsp SX race and crash helmet cam vids

[lrrs313]

I'm with Paul on starting also. Use pretty much the same technique for starts on the motard, works pretty well.

[a13x]

Ya I'm with Paul both feet down and forward. Plenty of people do what u do alex as well but doesn't work for me.

Never even heard of it! Thanks for the tip buddy! No more advice for you at Loudon

[seth399]

Never even heard of it! Thanks for the tip buddy! No more advice for you at Loudon

aha, I assumed you were doing that! You also said i didn't mention the gate watching but I know I did We still homies right aha

[Awesome]

I think I gave Seth the opposite advise after watching his motard starts. Get your feet on the pegs ASAP for that, he was doing the MX style.

[Crash Dummy Denno]

this looks ike a blast - is it cheap?

[seth399]

this looks ike a blast - is it cheap?

is what cheap? racing, smashing head or smashing camera?

[Crash Dummy Denno]

is what cheap? racing, smashing head or smashing camera?

the first part

i know:
smashing head is cheap

smashing camera I have done and usually isn't cheap

[seth399]

the first part

i know:
smashing head is cheap

smashing camera I have done and usually isn't cheap

Ya I got lucky on the camera falling off head, seems to work fine.

Racing is a bit cheaper than road racing i would say mainly due to tire needs in roadracing. If you already have mx bike and gear to enter a race then the entry per class is usually 35-40 bucks, one day license is 10 bucks. License for the year is like 75-100 bucks for most organizations. To get in the gate morning of race is 10 bucks per person.
So if you go alone and race 2 classes you are looking at 100 bucks for the day of racing give or take.

[a13x]

this looks ike a blast - is it cheap?

Yea kinda?

$10 gate fee
$10 transponder rental
$10 one day race license (if you don't have season lisc with that club)
$35 entry fee for one race ($35 for 2nd race entry, $20 for 3rd race entry)
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$65 total

Get you:
1 Race Entry = 1 heat race and 1 main = 12 laps (5 heat / 7 main)
1 Practice Session = About 3 to 4 laps in morning

So for $65 you get roughly 16 laps total. Not as economical per lap as Loudon actually if you just do one race but it's fun.. You use about .5 gallons of gas in your bike that you guy at the Mobil station and a brand new set of tires ($130) will last you like 10 races



LRRS the cheap way to do it is one pre-entered race at $65 + $20 gate fee = $85 and that gets you 4 practice sessions (roughly 6 laps each) and 1 race for a total of 32 laps. But depending on the bike you ride tire costs are super variable, lodging for the overnight is a factor, and gas costs more.

[Crash Dummy Denno]

Ya I got lucky on the camera falling off head, seems to work fine.

Racing is a bit cheaper than road racing i would say mainly due to tire needs in roadracing. If you already have mx bike and gear to enter a race then the entry per class is usually 35-40 bucks, one day license is 10 bucks. License for the year is like 75-100 bucks for most organizations. To get in the gate morning of race is 10 bucks per person.
So if you go alone and race 2 classes you are looking at 100 bucks for the day of racing give or take.

how much time on track? similar to sprint road races?

[Jim]

nice videos Lolli

[seth399]

how much time on track? similar to sprint road races?

ya, see alex's post, practice is very quick. Racing, for sx they had 4 lap heat race and 7 or 8 lap main event. For mx it is 2 equal motos. Sometimes 4-5 laps, sometimes 10min.+2 laps, depends on where you are racing

[a13x]

Tell you what past the per lap analysis it FEELS cheaper than roadracing due to the one day factor in the two MX races I've done. Show up, sign up, race and go home. When you spend 3 days at Loudon you invariably will spend more money on just random shit, food, whatever.

Then again I'm a Novice level MX'er who does it for fun and a Expert level RR'er who expects to podium each race... sure if I was a Expert MX'er my costs overall would be WAY different....

[Paul_E_D]

Agreed alex, MX seems cheap to dabble at, but likely just as expensive to do seriously. Plus, they race a hell of a lot more often!

[seth399]

Tell you what past the per lap analysis it FEELS cheaper than roadracing due to the one day factor in the two MX races I've done. Show up, sign up, race and go home. When you spend 3 days at Loudon you invariably will spend more money on just random shit, food, whatever.

Then again I'm a Novice level MX'er who does it for fun and a Expert level RR'er who expects to podium each race... sure if I was a Expert MX'er my costs overall would be WAY different....

ya true but the differential isn't as great. Where novice road racer is using take offs for 100 bucks and an expert is using several hundred dollars in tires in a weekend. In mx, you can race expert and still have a sorta roach bike and just worrry about tires every several races and everything else is about the same other than motor work/maint. more often and some components.

[a13x]

ya true but the differential isn't as great. Where novice road racer is using take offs for 100 bucks and an expert is using several hundred dollars in tires in a weekend. In mx, you can race expert and still have a sorta roach bike and just worrry about tires every several races and everything else is about the same other than motor work/maint. more often and some components.

Not if you are a serious MX expert Seth who expects to do well. You'd have two bikes, a practice bike and a race bike, suspension work, your race bike would be new so you could get contingency, etc etc etc.

You could say the same about a Expert level RR at Loudon. You don't HAVE to run new tires every weekend and can still go out there and do just fine. You don't HAVE to run a new R6. etc etc. You could race Expert on a EX500 and have a podium program and your costs would be way way cheaper than a 450 Expert MX racers's podium program.

You could make up scenarios and arguments all day. Guess bottom line is motorsports racing at any level and any discipline is pricey if you expect to run up front and race often.

[seth399]

well ya its all expensive for sure but mr. D was asking about a day of racing. The mx season as far as championship contention is totally different. Like you guys said, if you are racing NESC you are doing racing almost every single weekend. That is apples and oranges and obviously maint. costs go up

[a13x]

well ya its all expensive for sure but mr. D was asking about a day of racing. The mx season as far as championship contention is totally different. Like you guys said, if you are racing NESC you are doing racing almost every single weekend. That is apples and oranges and obviously maint. costs go up

Oh ya well we both sort of answered Mr. D pretty well and then it slid off topic when Paul responded to my non sequitur that said:

QUOTE - Then again I'm a Novice level MX'er who does it for fun and a Expert level RR'er who expects to podium each race... sure if I was a Expert MX'er my costs overall would be WAY different.... - ENDQUOTE

Did ya miss that?

[seth399]

BLARGH, I'm gonna ban you guys from my thread! Wait I can't do that...

[Crash Dummy Denno]

thanks for the info seth - looks badass to dabble in...
here's a better question
what do you like more, mx or rr? (gun to your head so no swiss answers)

[a13x]

LOFL

[seth399]

thanks for the info seth - looks badass to dabble in...
here's a better question
what do you like more, mx or rr? (gun to your head so no swiss answers)

don't hate me but I still like mx more, they are both great

[Pittenger5]

Dennos so cute when hes afraid Im gonna beat him next year

[seth399]

Dennos so cute when hes afraid Im gonna beat him next year

here comes the smack talker/habitual line stepper

[Pittenger5]

Im not good at much. However, smack talking is something Im good at.