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...that I probably already know the answer, but...
Is it necessary to buy a back protector for a beginner track day? It says it in the BoMo rules, but I've heard that they're not real strict with it. I know I can't put a price on protecting my spine, but I just bought a track bike, I have to buy tires and the expense of everything else associated with a track day, is my foam pad in my jacket good enough for a beginners day?
Not real interested in hearing the litany of "can you put a price on safety" just want to know if it's something that is strongly enforced or more like a personal decision type of thing to wear one.
Thanks.
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If costs are adding up quickly (trust me we all know that feeling) you could always borrow one, I'm sure there is a large amount of people here that would be willing to lend you one. Myself included if need be.
I've been checked for a bp at least once per td. What kind of suit/jacket you got? I may have one you could have/borrow depending.
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Yes it is enforced, before you even hit Hot pit lane they will stop you, say something sweet in your ear and pat you on the back.
If you do a TTD day, let me know ahead of time and I'll be sure to bring an extra.
Could I borrow someones for the July 13+14 track days at Louden? I guess the kind that straps around your waist would be the best to use since they don't require a matching jacket.
Do I remove the back pad in my jacket when I'm wearing the other back protection?
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That's up to you. I only have the inside the jacket sleeve kind as spares. One Joe rocket, one a*.
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The vendor at the track has them for sale- I got mine for $100. fits great and is very slim...
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Most back pads that come in a jacket are not nearly as robust as individual (separate) back protectors and would probably not qualify as a back protector for track use. Probably due to size and level of protection. I'm sure TD reps can explain reasoning better.
I removed the built-in back pad when running a dedicated back protector. Was too bulky if trying to use both.
It may have ce approved elbow and shoulder armor, but most jackets, especially more modestly priced ones, don't come with ce approved back protection. There are different levels of ce rating as well. Those I know nothing about. All I do know is that ce approved back plates are almost always comprised of one layer of hard, one layer of soft protection. The soft going closest to you.
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All the Forcefield BP have no hard plate and their latest Sub4 is the only protector on the market that exceeds level 2 CE certification rating in terms of force transmission.
Last edited by RocketPunch; 06-21-10 at 04:35 PM.
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coulda fooled me when I bought my Spidi Back Warrior specifically because it exceeds CE Level 2 http://www.spidi.com/eu/eu_en/safety...r-145-160.html
they also have a newer version http://www.spidi.com/eu/eu_en/safety...rrior-evo.html
Alpinestars and Dianese also have a couple Level 2 back protectors. And I bet there are more companies that do too.
or are you saying the Forcefield is the only non hard shell rated to level 2?
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The Forcefield pro-sub4 is the only back protector documented to transmit <4 kN using the level 2 test methods. Pretty sure that this BP has the lowest force transmit level of any motorcycle back protector on the market today.
To meet CE Level 2 you must deliver <9kN. Most good stuff is CE level 2. I've never seen other BPs mention what exact force they deliver, just the fact that they meet/pass level 2.
The Forcefield just happens to not have a hard shell while many others do use a hard shell.