Foot Placement.....Help

[Pigman]

Where or how should I have my feet on the Bike during a Track Day??? After looking at Owen's pic of me I can see I need some work??I was grinding my right foot pretty good and wore down my boots a bit also.

So where and what is the Propper Placement of the feet on the pegs????

[Paul_E_D]

It's not static, but the ball of your foot is a good start. Tucked in tight against the frame for the inside foot.

[eboos]

I always have the ball of my feet on the foot pegs when I ride. I move my left foot into position when I shift, then return it to the ball of my foot. My inside foot is angled so that I am on the outer part of the ball of my foot and my ankle is tucked in close to the bike while in a turn. I find that this position helps me transition from one corner to another easier.

Edit: I need to learn to type faster. Paul beat me to it.

[ThisBitch]

All of the Tony's instructors told me to be up on the balls of my feet so I stop dragging toe and it also makes it easier to flip from one side to the other.

Here's the issue I have (hopefully someone can answer this too): When hanging off, I see that most riders tuck their heel into the area behind the peg, which on most bikes is indented, to stick their knee out. The bracket that my peg is on is a solid unit for the front and passenger pegs. There's nowhere to put my heel. I don't understand how I can possibly stick my knee out without being able to turn my foot. Am I compeltely retarded

[Pittenger5]

On my EX, mainly for ground clearance I find myself with my foot twisted more on the frame than the peg. So like the outside part of the ball of my foot on the peg, and the ball of the foot against the frame. Course, I used to catch toe constantly in turns so I think I started doing that as a result.


Jackie read my post above. My EX is the same way, you can see marks on the bodywork that my heel wears off the paint.

[ThisBitch]

So you actually have your foot almost flat against the bike?

[Pittenger5]

So you actually have your foot almost flat against the bike?

Essentially. My little toe is sitting on the peg and my big toe is up against the frame. Its as if I just roll my foot towards the little toe, but then I pull my foot into the bike. If you try it at your desk or whatever, just roll your foot onto the little toe, your knee actually tends to go out.
Bear in mind I did this for ground cleanence and the lack thereof on my bike, dont know if this is a GREAT way to do it across the board, but I like it.

[eboos]

I would say mine is on a 30-45 degree angle. As Pitt said, also try lifting your heal and swinging your leg out. Your heal doesn't really get further in, but your knee naturally swings out.

[ThisBitch]

Essentially. My little toe is sitting on the peg and my big toe is up against the frame. Its as if I just roll my foot towards the little toe, but then I pull my foot into the bike. If you try it at your desk or whatever, just roll your foot onto the little toe, your knee actually tends to go out.
Bear in mind I did this for ground cleanence and the lack thereof on my bike, dont know if this is a GREAT way to do it across the board, but I like it.

I'm going to have to look at the rearset setup for the 650R and see if it offers any type of different configuration. When I was riding with hellion last weekend, we had this conversation. We were talking about foot placement and when I looked at his bike, I realized that the area behind the peg was a good inch or so further in, giving you a place to stick your heel.

During the LAPS day, Steve told me that the only reason I'm not dragging knee is that I'm not getting my leg out far enough, but I think the lack of place to put my heel is the reason why.

[The Snowman]

I need to figure this out as well or I'll be going through a LOT of toe sliders.

[Pittenger5]

During the LAPS day, Steve told me that the only reason I'm not dragging knee is that I'm not getting my leg out far enough, but I think the lack of place to put my heel is the reason why.

Yah, my tard I dont really need to rotate my foot, but like I say, on my EX theres a section of the bodywork that is completely rubbed off of paint cause my heel hits it so bad, and the way I rotate my foot helps I think.

[Pittenger5]

I need to figure this out as well or I'll be going through a LOT of toe sliders.

You just dont have your foot back far enough on the peg. You always seemed to have the arch of your foot on the peg, not the ball of your foot. I noticed that at the track day, I meant to mention it to you, but cant remember if I did or not.

[Paul_E_D]

I'm going to have to look at the rearset setup for the 650R and see if it offers any type of different configuration. When I was riding with hellion last weekend, we had this conversation. We were talking about foot placement and when I looked at his bike, I realized that the area behind the peg was a good inch or so further in, giving you a place to stick your heel.

During the LAPS day, Steve told me that the only reason I'm not dragging knee is that I'm not getting my leg out far enough, but I think the lack of place to put my heel is the reason why.

Those brackets behind the pegs offer a great point of connection with the bike and protect your foot from getting stuck between the frame and swingarm. Don't overthink it. ball on peg, toes and heel tucked in hard against whatever is there. as you move you knee out, your heel will naturally come up allowing a little rotation of your toes outward. My heel generally rubs the tailsection...

[GixerJockey]

Am I compeltely retarded

Yes...

[Jim]

Yes...

so are you....and chuck is too

[a13x]

I need to figure this out as well or I'll be going through a LOT of toe sliders.

Toe sliders are actually for something completely other than the way you're thinking you'll grind them down....

Jackie don't you remember your lessons at LAPS

[ThisBitch]

Jackie don't you remember your lessons at LAPS

Uh... no


Why don't you come over and re-show me

[Awesome]

Toe sliders are actually for something completely other than the way you're thinking you'll grind them down....

Jackie don't you remember your lessons at LAPS

what are they for?

Bowling?

[The Snowman]

so are you....and chuck is too

I'm in a group.








wait, what??

[OreoGaborio]

A picture is worth a thousand words...

Feel free to critique. This is what I was doing on Degsy's bike back in the spring of '07.

[The Snowman]

You just dont have your foot back far enough on the peg. You always seemed to have the arch of your foot on the peg, not the ball of your foot. I noticed that at the track day, I meant to mention it to you, but cant remember if I did or not.

Yeah, I was getting it as the 2nd day went on.

In one of our classroom sessions, Graham pointed out that it's easier to move your weight around from the ball of your foot than from your arch or heel.

[ThisBitch]

Pete, that picture is a little dark, but I think I get the general idea. I'm taking my bike out tonight, I'll try it.

[Sheppo]

Pete, that picture is a little dark, but I think I get the general idea. I'm taking my bike out tonight, I'll try it.

better?

[a13x]

what are they for?

Bowling?

Talking about grinding toe slider down due to foot hanging down low and toe dragging. That's not what toe slider is for (as I'm sure you know Jay, comment was towards the other guys)

Toe slider is for when your foot is perched on the ball of the foot, most times cocked almost 90 degrees on the peg, and you are leaned over so far the toe slider is dragging along the ground.

In this pic you can clearly see my Orange toe slider parallel to the ground, if I was banked over bit more, that would be touching (like it did 3 corners prior to this photo). I do it in T6 at Loudon almost every lap (bike G's out so much).


I used to think it was for 'dangly foot' as well (see dangly foot below), but it's not.


That's why the track is cool. You find out why your bike and gear is designed the way it is


Rule of Thumb: Only time you don't want to be on the balls of your feet is if you have to operate the controls (shifter/brake) at some point in the turn.

[Tabby]

Go watch "Faster" for some real time visuals. There a few good shots of what the fellows here have been describing. Then find the one that fits you and your bike. I think there is one shot that clearly shows the inside foot against the frame. I think it was Kevin Schwantz too. It's been awhile since I've watched it. A friend of mine is tyring to wear the DVD out.