ABS elimination

[Momoney7878]

Anyone had experience “turning off” ABS, aka pulling a fuse. And if that means you can use non-ABS race brake pads and steel braided lines upgrades? 2019 Ninja 650 barely has any parts yet and I’m getting antsy!

[tls25rs]

If you are changing out the brake lines from the master to the caliper then the only thing you might have to worry about would be electronics that wouldn't allow the bike to run properly because of a possible ABS fault. If all taking the ABS bits off the bike does is turn on a light, then master/lines/caliper shouldn't affect anything.

That will be different if you are swapping the stock lines and connecting to the same locations and still keeping all the ABS hardware in line in the braking system. In this case something would need to be done to disable the ABS functions whether it be pulling a fuse or unplugging a sensor or something of that nature.

If I were to want to get rid of the ABS on a bike I would go about taking all ABS related materials off the bike and plumbing the master directly to the calipers with high quality brake lines. Once that is done it can be determined what needs to be done to make the bike run and or shut off the light on the dash.

[Momoney7878]

Great. Thank you. Will try the easy out first, aka switch lines and pull fuse and see where I land. Hopefully not literally though

[TheIglu]

What is the goal of the ABS elimination exactly?

Modern ABS is better than the vast majority of humans is able to do.

[lopycam]

What is the goal of the ABS elimination exactly?

Modern ABS is better than the vast majority of humans is able to do.

Don't bring that logic here....... This is an internet forum...... come on!



And I think he should get a BUSA anyway....

[lopycam]

And I apologize to the original poster for my non constructive response.

[JettaJayGLS]

What is the goal of the ABS elimination exactly?

Modern ABS is better than the vast majority of humans is able to do.

I couldn't imagine keeping the ABS on while tracking my RC390, especially in the wet. The period of time it "releases" the brakes when its senses a lock up is way way way too long. Luckily, you can just turn it off on KTMs via the dashboard buttons.

[Momoney7878]

Eliminating ABS is a side effect of putting on aftermarket pads/lines which are not ABS compatible. Means to an end only.

[Kurlon]

Eliminating ABS is a side effect of putting on aftermarket pads/lines which are not ABS compatible. Means to an end only.

WAT?!

[golden chicken]

[tls25rs]

If I were to want to race my 701 I would likely ditch the ABS however as a street bike/track day bike I wouldn't get rid of it even if I upgraded lines and pads. Not sure what would make brake lines and/or pads "not ABS compatible"

[Momoney7878]

Me neither but that’s what the manufacturers say. Am I being misled? Just throw them on and go for it??

[Chippertheripper]

putting the pads on is a chip-shot. heat cycle them and go bonkers.
replacing lines on an abs equipped bike is a greater challenge, getting them bled properly being the biggest obstacle. otherwise, it makes no difference if the lines are rubber or stainless to the abs system, it only cares whether the wheel is locked or not and will perform accordingly.

[Eric Baker]

The only way I can see lines being not compatible is if they eliminated the ABS module, running straight from the master to the caliper. Otherwise, if it's a direct stock replacement, should make no difference. Pads should also make no difference. Maybe the manufacturer just hasn't had them thoroughly tested, so is just covering his ass saying they aren't compatible because they don't yet know what the behavior will be.

[Momoney7878]

I’ll experiment and get back to everyone on the lines situation. Thanks!

[aldend123]

What type of pads/lines? What's the source of info that says they aren't ABS compatible?