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    chain install ???

    so I cut up the sucker.



    six hours later after preping and cleaning were done, i stopped here. so how do you put this clip on? small C-clamp? there's no way you can squeeze with your thumb. i tried. this is temporary until i have a chance to rivet. i have rivet type master link.


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    Re: chain install ???

    i used the chain breaker

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    Re: chain install ???

    Kham go to Sears and buy a cheap pipe flaring tool - it will have an end on it that looks like a plumb bob weight (big metal pyramid). Then take a large C-clamp and take off the foot (wiggly part) replacing it with the piece I described above from the flaring tool.

    You'll end up with a C clamp with a sharp metal point on one end. Then you clamp that down on each of the rivets a little bit at a time (dont over do it just keep going back and forth on them). The flaring end on the c-clamp will mushroom out the rivets as it pushes them down.

    I got one at home if you want to pick it up - made it last fall.

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    I ordered the DID chain tool last week.. when it comes in I can help you install your rivet link if you want...

    I am redoing mine.. I did it without the correct tool cause I was feeling cheap.. it has been fine for a while but all of a sudden it freaked me out as I think the pins moved a little. So I thought I would suck it up since I have the money now.

    It's a massive PITA to do it without the correct tool as the pins are not fixed to the link that they are installed in at the factory.. if you're not super careful you end up with the plates not being parallel and you get a kink in the chain. It took me a long time to get something serviceable when I did mine and I always figured it was not as strong as if I'd bought the tool at the time.

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    Re: chain install ???

    Something as simple as pliers or needle nose vise grips to set the link itself to the proper depth. Place the clip over the master pins with the larger hole over a pin, and the open end against the other pin (once the link is set to depth, you'll see the groves the clip sits in) and make sure the rounded part (not the open end) is facing the rotation direction of the chain. I've found regular pliers will snap the clip into place pretty easy.

    Still not sure what the big fuss is about master clips vs rivet type. If a master clip fails there are usually 2 reasons.
    1. Which knowone likes to admitt, you installed it wrong.
    2. The clip got worn out and broke off...which again would say it's your fault for not properly caring for your chain

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    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post

    Still not sure what the big fuss is about master clips vs rivet type. If a master clip fails there are usually 2 reasons.
    1. Which knowone likes to admitt, you installed it wrong.
    2. The clip got worn out and broke off...which again would say it's your fault for not properly caring for your chain
    really? i only read to use rivet over clip if you often do high speed run like over 100? the kit comes with rivet type and i bought the clip as temporary solution.

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    new sprocket.


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    Re: chain install ???

    a rivet link has 100% strength as the rest of the chain while a clip link is something like 75-85% the strength of the chain.

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    Get a rivet link. Would you trust your left ankle to 75-85%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post
    a rivet link has 100% strength as the rest of the chain while a clip link is something like 75-85% the strength of the chain.
    How sure are you of that? The link is the same, as far as I can tell, just the fastening is different. Dont a few Loudon racers use clip links w/o issue?

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    Because thats what DID says on there site and on the back of the box. But yea i guess you shouldnt listen to the manufacturer right lol. I mean we're not riding dirt bikes here, would you really want your chain to fail and take you with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluej511 View Post
    a rivet link has 100% strength as the rest of the chain while a clip link is something like 75-85% the strength of the chain.
    If you want to get into chain strength and getting percentages using numbers, I think you'll find that any modern 1000cc sportbike has about 20-25% of the power and torque capable of breaking a chain. using the high number of 25% power and the lower number of 75% chain strength, that's a 50% safety factor

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    Kham where are you located? there are plenty of members here with the tool to rivet it that would be willing to help. if you aren't too far from me I'd bring mine over.

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    clip is in. yay!




    new chain. "shiny"




    thanks everyone. my next plan is to take over the world. i mean... i can now ride to anyone with rivet tool at your convinience. say next couple weeks?

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    Re: chain install ???

    what the hell did you use on that thing, butter or crisco?

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    all it need is to paint tail.




    this bike is up for sale btw.

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    Re: chain install ???

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    what the hell did you use on that thing, butter or crisco?
    That is how they come. And the stuff on the master is also provided with the new chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    what the hell did you use on that thing, butter or crisco?
    it came like that. i didn't taste to see if butter or crisco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kham View Post
    it came like that. i didn't taste to see if butter or crisco.
    You might want to clean that stuff off before you ride it. When it flings off the new chain it sticks to the bike pretty good and is a PITA to get clean again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    You might want to clean that stuff off before you ride it. When it flings off the new chain it sticks to the bike pretty good and is a PITA to get clean again.
    ok thanks. will do. i didn't think it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    That is how they come. And the stuff on the master is also provided with the new chain.
    turn around and jump, that one might bounce off the wall and you can catch it on the way back.


    come on man, who would actually use butter or crisco on their chain.

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    Re: chain install ???

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    come on man, who would actually use butter or crisco on their chain.
    A short-order cook?

    My new RK Gold x-ring chain came coated in that 'Crisco'-cosmoline-smegma... just clean it of with a kero soaked rag, wipe down and lube with whatever stuff you like.

    I have this rivet tool (bottom link) from Niche Cycle in Fla. bought on Ebay, good value $55 bucks w/shipping, works just like the Motion Pro one and bits are interchangeable... (Instructions here: http://www.motionpro.com/images/docu...58.I8-0058.pdf )

    Works great:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chain...93442896822529

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    Re: chain install ???

    That one doesn't come with the press plates.

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    Re: chain install ???

    Quote Originally Posted by GNTurbo6 View Post
    That one doesn't come with the press plates.
    I used a link plate off the old chain with needle nosed Vice-Grips.

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