Loser harley/chopper guys...

[stoinkythepig]

Oh and i was even surprised that some of those harley 800 lb bikes could destroy any of our bikes in a straight line... somethin to be said for over 130-145 lb/ft of torque

My 450 lb sport bike puts 790 ft-lbs of torque to the rear wheel in first gear. 70 ft-lbs at the crank*1.714 primary reduction *2.562 final reduction*2.571 first gear reduction

I can easily generate 250 ft-lbs of torque with a decent-sized 1/2" drive ratchet and my arms, but I cannot beat a Harley in a race. Torque is meaningless, HP is everything.

[Tricky Mike]

slow down, any of our bikes? most if not all 600 and above sportbikes would show any harly including the v-rod its ass in a drag race. liter bikes are in the 9's stock with the right rider never mind the zx-14 or busa. the heavily modified harlys that run quick numbers are still air cooled and almost un-streetable.

I've ridden a bunch of Hardlys... based on the good old seat of the pants dyno, I doubt any of them could come close to a new stock liter bike in a drag race.

[Drowner]

No one flooded your bike. It has no accelerator pumps. Twisting the throttle while it's not running does absolutely nothing. You may need to fix your float valves.

The bike has never done this before, it was a little too coincidental.

[RandyO]

No one flooded your bike. It has no accelerator pumps. Twisting the throttle while it's not running does absolutely nothing. You may need to fix your float valves.

fuel petcock too? I would think

do F2s have a manual petcock or vacuum operated one ?

[Zed]

Oh and i was even surprised that some of those harley 800 lb bikes could destroy any of our bikes in a straight line... somethin to be said for over 130-145 lb/ft of torque

What harleys are these with 130-145 ft.lbs. of torque? Your typical big-twin HD is around 70-80 ft.lbs., and even the wheelie-bar equipped, strip-only Destroyer tops out at 97 ft.lbs. @ 7600rpm.

The suzuki M109 is the torqueyist v-twin cruiser I'm aware of, with 118 ft.lbs of torque, but still only manages a 12-second 1/4 mile. A ZX-14 on the other hand produces about the same peak torque but has about 70 more peak horsepower, and is a solid 3 seconds faster in the 1/4.

V-twin cruisers are not fast. Most 600s will smoke nearly any cruiser if the rider knows what he's doing.

[UnderDog]

I doubt they did that to your bike, probably an annoying coincidence. If you had parked by a bunch of scooters and this happened would you have assumed the scooter guys did this to you? May be your own pre conceived idea of the Harley guys too.... not that they can't be assholes but hey, so can sportbike riders or anyone for that matter.

The HD that are the biggest assholes are usually the poser guys that rely on the bikes for their identity. The real biker crowd usually don't seem to care one way or another. I've had some real good conversations with guys from the biker crowd about my sportbikes, their HDs, riding in general. Admittedly though, they were a lot more interested when I had my TL1000R with full M4 system, now that was a good sounding bike!

[Drowner]

I doubt they did that to your bike, probably an annoying coincidence. If you had parked by a bunch of scooters and this happened would you have assumed the scooter guys did this to you? May be your own pre conceived idea of the Harley guys too.... not that they can't be assholes but hey, so can sportbike riders or anyone for that matter.

So the choke opened itself? Just saying, someone was messing with the bike, and if i had to hazard a guess between the blonde 20 somethings, and the grizzly bikers, i'd go with the latter. This is not a strictly HD hangout, they are mostly outside on the patio so they can sit there and stare at each others bikes with cock in hand.

[Awesome]

I've ridden a bunch of Hardlys... based on the good old seat of the pants dyno, I doubt any of them could come close to a new stock liter bike in a drag race.

I don't know about the harleys but the customs got some nut to them. Chad's snapped my neck pretty good, and with a 280 or whatever rear tire delivering that 1800CC plus power to short ration gears, with the weight to hold the traction, I know those things can move in a straight line. They can't however stop or turn. I want one.

[Awesome]

So the choke opened itself? Just saying, someone was messing with the bike, and if i had to hazard a guess between the blonde 20 somethings, and the grizzly bikers, i'd go with the latter. This is not a strictly HD hangout, they are mostly outside on the patio so they can sit there and stare at each others bikes with cock in hand.

you know a place with 20-something blondes? Why you holding out on me?!?!! That'd be like shooting fish in a barrel with a laser scope.

[Tricky Mike]

I don't know about the harleys but the customs got some nut to them. Chad's snapped my neck pretty good, and with a 280 or whatever rear tire delivering that 1800CC plus power to short ration gears, with the weight to hold the traction, I know those things can move in a straight line. They can't however stop or turn. I want one.

Nah... fuck all that BS... who's got a sick custom they want to let me borrow... you know, to prove me wrong.

[CMG241]

shit, you think thats bad try owning a Buell... The HD guys fuck with you cause it looks like a sport bike, the sport bike guys fuck with you cause it has a HD motor.

Testify brother...testify

[Wishbone]

Oh and i was even surprised that some of those harley 800 lb bikes could destroy any of our bikes in a straight line... somethin to be said for over 130-145 lb/ft of torque

I don't know about the harleys but the customs got some nut to them. Chad's snapped my neck pretty good, and with a 280 or whatever rear tire delivering that 1800CC plus power to short ration gears, with the weight to hold the traction, I know those things can move in a straight line. They can't however stop or turn. I want one.

im calling BS on both accounts this is the slip from the dyno drags at bike night.
im on the left with an 02 FZ1 and on the right is one of the guys who runs the drag races bike which was some sort of custom that had a 116CI motor which is about double my liter bike

[Awesome]

im calling BS on both accounts this is the slip from the dyno drags at bike night.
im on the left with an 02 FZ1 and on the right is one of the guys who runs the drag races bike which was some sort of custom that had a 116CI motor which is about double my liter bike

All I was saying is that the custom has nut. You're also forgetting you were on a simulation, I'm guessing with the front and rear strapped down. A sport bike will flip and lose traction a whole lot easier than a chopper. They won't beat in a quarter or a top speed, the engines don't rev high and the bikes have no aerodynamics. Double the displacement will rip your arms out of the sockets when you wack the gas though.

[Wishbone]

ok i just wanted to clear that up. my wifes cousin (who knows bikes and has had several) holds strong to his belief that a sportster if one of the fastest 1/4 mile bikes

and yes it was strapped down. the 9.75 is a number i could NEVER do on my bike but i bet some one with a clue could

[UnderDog]

I'm not trying to bust your balls and it sux that that happened, but the way you described it made me think that, whatever happened, it may not have been what you thought.

I havent had a bike with carbs or choke for years so forgive me if botched this assessment but, even if someone put your choke on and then cranked on the throttle with the bike not running, I don't think that would flood your carbs. The choke just cuts the air flow down and twisting the throttle shouldnt dump fuel in like that if its not running, right? Maybe you have a problem with your carbs? It is an older F2, maybe needs a carb tune or rebuild? -OR- maybe someone was f#cking w/ your ride and almost dropped it or tipped it over, now that could flood your carbs and leave a gas smell. They might have put the choke on when they were picking it back up? Just guessing here, who knows...

So the choke opened itself? Just saying, someone was messing with the bike, and if i had to hazard a guess between the blonde 20 somethings, and the grizzly bikers, i'd go with the latter. This is not a strictly HD hangout, they are mostly outside on the patio so they can sit there and stare at each others bikes with cock in hand.

[ProVehiclePhoto]

Since I'm new to the bike world, i honestly didn't think it would be a problem to park my F2 in with a few choppers. My buddy who has his car, is busting me that i shouldn't park there. I figured, what the hell, we're all bikers. Now, i'm not a squid in anyway, so i pull up, hook up my helmet, and head inside.

Fast forward about an hour, several bikes have come and gone, and i go leave. Choke is open....I didn't do that....bike reeks of fuel, and wont start. Fucking faggot chopper riders had the choke open, must have turned the throttle a bunch and flooded it bad. I wanted to kick their bikes over like dominoes.

Anyway, guess i learned a lesson, its just not the same in the bike world as the car world.

Not for nothing, but being a "loser Harley guy" myself, I don't think that most of the guys give a crap about where you park. I ride with a LARGE Harley type group and there are some of the guys that do own rockets also. Hell, I would but my wife would cut my balls off and feed them to my pugs.

If you didn't see who did it, don't make an assumption. It could have very easily been another rocket rider.

And as far as kicking the bikes over, well, ricer, Harley, chopper...whatever. That would not be a smart thing to do on many levels.

[DucDave]

the percentage of asswipes in any given population is a constant....

same percentage in cagers, sportbike riders, cruiser riders, cops, doctors, teachers, conservatives, liberals, Catholics, athiests, etc etc etc....

I live my life assuming the guy next to me ISNT an asswipe until proven differently. I would have parked my bike there too and would not have expected a problem. Law of averages says you'll run into the asswipe sooner or later...it was just your turn. Don't let it change your life! I will continue to believe that the bunch of Harley riders I pass are as likely to wave back as not...so I always wave! And I don't get all worked up if they don't wave back...maybe next time they will!

Life is short...most folks feel the same way and given half a chance will respond positively to positive responses. If your world smells like shit you might want to check your mustache!!!