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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Perhaps you could stagger the timing of the event, so people wanting to participate in the "class/course" part would register, pay and arrive earlier. The remainder of the event could start after the class was underway thereby eliminating some of your crowd and showmanship issues. Perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChR1s View Post
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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Keith Code has his outrigger bike.

    I wish that there was a realistic computer simulation

    I think the dealers are on the fence if they scream safety they may cut into sales.

    SOME kind of trainer Gymkhana event would be educational and fun

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Hi Ken,
    I was at the meeting with Degsy and the RMV. I'd be more than happy to help in any way possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Kurtz View Post
    Even the squidliest of squids would be impressed by a skilled rider with really good body position dragging his knees on a small coned off course(i.e. Lee Parks ARC type stuff).
    Although I like the idea, I doubt this is how it would go. The squidliest of squids go to a stunt shows then practice wheelies and stoppies on our streets for the rest of the season. Do we really want these squidliest of squids practicing dragging a knee on our streets? We all know they're not going to the track.

    That said, I think Ken's idea is great. It just needs to be done realizing that there are riders that will try this at home and structure what they see accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McBiggity View Post
    Ken, sounds like a great idea. Keep me/us updated on the progress. I would be more than happy to lend my time to this.
    +1, I'd be happy to help out.... I may even have my MSF Rider Coach cert. by the time it happens...

    The same sort of idea was broached when Degs & that crew met up w/ Eugene and I think it would do some good... The Cruiser crowd my have poker runs, but the "squids" have shows... the target group isn't exactly all that hard to track down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noxin View Post
    Putting them into a cone course, just means people are going to be bouncing all day long. Cones are slippery when you hit them. While they'll have the requisite helmet, not many will be wearing full gear, enough to protect them in the event of a dance with the pavement.

    The crowd injury aspect is something to consider as well.

    I hope I'm wrong and it all works out for the better.
    Seems to me like you're making excuses as to not help a demographic that could use a helping hand.

    Did you take the MSF course? The cones they use are very small & AREN'T slippery at all... and why couldn't we just turn away those that aren't wearing long pants & closed toed shoes. It's pretty simple, really.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    The perfect place to do something is at the track .
    With safety mostly in place for an event like this , it would be an easier place to " customize " to an event of this type .

    Problems would be , cost ?

    Another thought , would be a large school parking lot ?

    Perfect place to spread the word would be motorcycle nights where most hang .

    Steve and Heather would be a good source .


    just some random thoughts .......

    I like the idea ...

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sbk12rs View Post
    Steve and Heather would be a good source .
    Definitely.... and a13x could be M.C. He knows how to pump up a crowd.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    It seems to me that Bayside has enough parking lot space. So does Wonderland.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ćheese View Post
    Although I like the idea, I doubt this is how it would go. The squidliest of squids go to a stunt shows then practice wheelies and stoppies on our streets for the rest of the season. Do we really want these squidliest of squids practicing dragging a knee on our streets? We all know they're not going to the track.
    I'll disagree a bit. The guys who go to a stunt show and then go home to do power wheelies up and down their residential street to practice, while foolish, also have no other viable option. There are no "stunt days" where they can go learn and practice those skills, maybe realizing as many trackday goers do how everything has a time and a place and reserving those skills for the proper one. A guy who is shown another type of skillful riding and then told he too can learn that, just go to any number of easily accessible trackdays, just might do that. I've really seen some riders this past year who I would have pegged as the kind of guys you'd never see get to the track not only do trackdays, but in some cases get hooked and get track only bikes. Education does have the potential to change people's actions.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Great feedback, all.

    You've brought up many of the concerns voiced by the organizers.

    The most viable option is to offer an Experienced Rider Course that is customized to sportriders. This has been done successfully in the past (with SRNE) and seemed to benefit every one who participated.

    We might be able to use the sportbike course offered for the military.

    Finding a parking lot that is centrally located and where the owner is moto-friendly is always a trick. If anybody has further suggestions, please post them up or PM me with solid contact info.

    We'll be working on this over the winter so these events can start to happen early in the season.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    This sounds like a great idea!

    Keep us posted.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    If this should ever come true, I would have to get lo jack on my bike and also bring my guns.

    Quote Originally Posted by DuncanMoto View Post
    It seems to me that Bayside has enough parking lot space. So does Wonderland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by g®eg View Post
    I would think you could get one of the site coordinators to give up a range...
    the State should be helping foot the bill.
    The problem is that most of the ranges are in remote locations. I think we need an area that is easy to get to and has a higher level of visibility.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken C View Post
    The problem is that most of the ranges are in remote locations. I think we need an area that is easy to get to and has a higher level of visibility.

    Seekonk Speedway maybe a good visible site for the south eastern meet.

    Or we can talk to Paul Cote and find motorcycle friendly businesses (restaurants) that would donate their parking lot and provide food. The Jockey Club in Raynham comes to mind.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Seekonk is the best existing range location, for sure.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Ken,
    Ironstone ventures runs a basic rider course out of Bunker Hill Community College in ... Charlestown.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Ken,
    I would bet that a place like wonderland dog track would be willing to host such an event. I know they do a couple of driver car events in their lot every year.
    This sounds like something I would like to get involved in so don't hesitate to contact me.

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    SRNE. Those were interesting days. Thanks for the trip back in time, Chris. Don't you just love that mustache.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Joe is one of the big players in the MA Rider Ed program, so I'm sure he will do what he can to help with locations.

    Wonderland sounds like another possibility.

    I'll keep you all posted about how the project is progressing.

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    Re: Your opinion-Sportbike Safety Events?

    Chiming in late. This is a difficult but very worthwhile project. It will be a challenge to make it educational, safe and fun.

    One suggestion for the program is tips and training for riding with passengers.

    I think advanced riders making demonstrations along with video tutorials and demonstrations would be very usefull tools. Freezeframe video's showing good and bad technique?

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